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Which one?
JAS 39 Gripen vs Eurofighter?
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Glider
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Eurofighter. Think of the F15 and F16 with the Eurofighter as the F15.
Eurofighter. Overall the better aircraft with a better package for air to air and almost as manoeuvrable.
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Lucky13
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*Rock* me *Hard place* I put my money on Gripen....
Matt308
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Eurofighter in a pure air-to-air engagement. AESA radar/Meteor BVRAAM trumps Gripen in long range engagements.
twoeagles
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Gripen in a classic dogfight; Euro in a longer range missile engagement.
102first_hussars
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The Ef 2000 is faster, and more advanced avionics
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Lucky13
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Mach 2.0 vs 2.3 I think...
Matt308
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And supercruise.
102first_hussars
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Yeah well IMO opinion a RAF pilot in an EF2000 would ass rape a Swwed pilot in a Saab anytime, no matter how good the Swwed Armed Forces are
the RAF is just that Damn good
the RAF is just that Damn good
Eurofighter. New generation of aircraft with better avionix and overall better performance and characteristics. JAS 39 is a great aircraft but the Eurofighter is the part of the next generation. All she is missing is the stealth capabitlities of the 22 and the 35.
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Lucky13
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UK´s Empire Test Pilots´ School uses the Gripen. The Swedes flew with USAF in RED FLAG exercise a while back and they (F-15 or 16 I think) couldn't touch them because of their EWS... They also kicked some serious F-16 ass in Norway a wee while back....8) 
The Gripen could also carry the same ordnance(?) like the USAF fighters....
Also, isn't the Eurofighter a "airbase only" aircraft?
The Gripen could also carry the same ordnance(?) like the USAF fighters....
Also, isn't the Eurofighter a "airbase only" aircraft?
Matt308
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UK´s Empire Test Pilots´ School uses the Gripen. The Swedes flew with USAF in RED FLAG exercise a while back and they (F-15 or 16 I think) couldn't touch them because of their EWS... They also kicked some serious F-16 ass in Norway a wee while back....8)
The Gripen could also carry the same ordnance(?) like the USAF fighters....
Also, isn't the Eurofighter a "airbase only" aircraft?
Couldn't touch them? I seriously doubt that. And against F-15C/E with AESA that's just a line of BS.
And yes I do believe the Gripen is qualified for all NATO missile loudouts (ie AIM-9/AIM-120). Don't get me wrong, Gripen is world class and I hope we never have to get on the wrong side of her. But she is not F-35 or Eurofighter caliber. She is also not as expensive.
Glider
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Thats an assumption that I wouldn't wish to make before I knew the facts. At the end of the day the F15 is an old airframe and the Grippen a very new one with all the latest gadgets. I doubt that the F15 couldn't touch it, thats a bit much but wouldn't be suprised if the F15 found the Grippen more than equal.
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Which gives her a good chance in the export market.
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Lucky13
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I was just quoting what was written fellas. I'll see if I can find the website again. It had something to do with their EWS system anyway. Early Warning System, right?
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"The very small radar cross section of Gripen was another problem for the 'red team' that included both air-to-air and surface-to-air threats. "We also confirmed that our warning and electronic warfare systems (EWS) are really, really good - it was almost impossible for the Red air force to get through our EW systems. We always knew where the air defense was, could avoid them and still do our work, even in very dynamic situations, with the threat getting more complex each day" said Colonel Lindberg."
It's not the same article that I read. This from the South African Air Force...
First Red Flag exercise for Gripen
Still looking folks....
It's not the same article that I read. This from the South African Air Force...
First Red Flag exercise for Gripen
Still looking folks....
Matt308
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Exxxxplain, please....
Wow that was a great post!
