This is interesting, too, a summary of the first day of the same battle:
"By the end of the first day of the assault, the Soviets were learning just how expensive the Seelow Heights were going to be. Soviet losses added up to 75 tanks, 2,250 killed, 3,400 wounded and 12 Ilyushin Il-2...
Definitely agree that a lot of the time the Stuka was flying friendlier skies, so to speak.
I'd love to see records for tank kills too. I did find this on the Web, from an account of the battle of Seelow Heights.
"...Manteuffel knew that he could not hold out much longer. He had no...
I guess the easy way to check the claims would be to see how many the Russians reported lost/destroyed--I wonder if that stat exists somewhere?
It's common knowledge that claims are always inflated, but even if the 14,000 number is halved, that's still more downed planes than there were total...
In which case, you'd have a ho-hum pic of a Gloster Meteor flying...level... The pic is cool because the plane is flying STRAIGHT up above the clouds...
Plan_D, make up your mind...
"Those 37mm cannons were deadly, thing being the Sturmovik had the same calibre cannons. The Hurricane IIC, IID or IV had two 40mm cannon."
OR (after being told very few Il-2s had the 37mms)
"23mm cannons could rip open almost any kind of Panzer, so the ones...
Maestro, like toffi says, I reckon this is a "favorite plane" list, not a "I think this is the best plane" list... You can't really argue with people's choices...
But I like yours... wish I had room for the Tempest in my list :wink:
And I'd buy that. It's really hard to find a good book about the Stuka for its whole career. There are books about squadrons, and Rudel's book of course, but apart from that...
Great accounts--where did those come from? It's interesting about the engines. It seems that a lot of the later-war Japanese planes had problems with engines--they weren't bad, but they tended to be very tempremental and hard to maintain.
Did you click on the link? It's a nickname, okay?
Anyway, it's hardly relevant, Sorry I swallowed the bait about the nickame stuff... On to better things...
"Stuka" is a nickname. As I'm sure you know, it's an abbreviation of the German word for divebomber. Try "stuka" and "nickname" in google:
http://tinyurl.com/3k5um
The fact that the Ju87 was nicknamed, essentially, "The Divebomber", was kinda of cool, I reckon.