Here's another image I just found that seems to have a single hand-held gun in place of the turret, in the manner of the older tunnel gun, fed merely by a box of ammo off to the side or perhaps from boxes mounted up near the ceiling.
Here's another pic I found. Though not very clear it's taken from the waist gun position facing forward. There appears to be a single hand-held gun, like the earlier tunnel gun, where the ball would usually be and it seems to be fed simply from a box put overhead.
I think it worth including here.
(From WWII data base):
"During the Battle of Britain Dowding was criticised by Vice Marshal William Sholto Douglas, Assistant Chief of Air Staff, and Vice Marshal Trafford Leigh-Mallory, for not being aggressive enough. Douglas took the view that the RAF fighters...
It was a modification asked for by the 5th Air Force and it appears that a lot if not most of the 90th bomb Group's Libs had it so it seems the added range and or bomb load was deemed more important than the added protection. I don't know if the Japanese resistance was starting to dwindle for...
It would be nice to have a wider angle on it to see what's supporting what but that doesn't seem likely.
It looks as though there is no post like I had thought but its all supported on braces to the scarf ring. Can't be sure though.
Got it!
From this website:
Plane Talking - HyperScale's Aircraft Scale Model Discussion Forum: B-24 Ventral Guns Replacing Ball Turret - Help Please
And it only took hours and hours.
On the late model 5th airforce Libs with the modification I am requesting pics or illustrations of, the hand-held guns rotated 360 degrees on a post housed in a plexiglass "dish". As I said earlier I did see a small photograph of the arrangement I am describing, so I know it existed as such, but...
That line from "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence" comes to mind (even though I've come to hate it a little bit for it's abuse in invoking 'the good lie' especially in the recent past):
"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend".
On another website this was identified as an A-36. I disagreed on the basis of there being no apparent evidence of dive brakes and it's being on a photo ship. It does have nose guns however and I'm not sure P-51As had them:
I know the RAF were given one (A-36) for evaluationbut I searched...
I had read of in a book, I think "Cactus Air Force" and also saw 1 picture in one of those WWII in color books of a small, white oxygen mask used by the US Navy and Marines. I was recently trying to locate some photographs but was unable to.
Can anyone direct me to some or a source or website...