1/72 Fw 190A-3a - Aircraft in Foreign Service WWII

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  1. destrozas

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    #1 destrozas, Nov 20, 2013
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    User Name: destrozas
    Name: sergio
    Category: intermediate
    Entry:Fw 190 Aa3 12 black 5Th fighter regiment 3rd company 1943
    kit: Revell 04171 Fw 190 A8- f8
    scale: 1/72
    Accesories: home decals

    During the Second World War, both Germany and the UK courted Turkey, seeking to draw the country into their respective spheres of influence. One result of this diplomatic manoeuvring was the sale of current inventory front-line fighter aircraft to the Turkish Air Force, despite the pressing need for them at home. Turkey ended up with FW-190 Aa3 and Spitfire Vb aircraft serving side by side during the war, and Spitfire IXs from the end of the war until 1948. The Focke-Wulfs were slightly downgraded from the German standard, lacking the wing root guns and having a different radio installation. They were painted in either RLM 02/71/65 or 74/75/76. Spinners were painted in the regimental colours of either black (Karabaş), red (Albaş) or yellow (Saribaş). At least one and possibly more were painted an overall dark green towards the end of the war but not much is known of these particular machines' history. The Spitfire Vs were clapped-out ex Desert Air Force machines, still fitted with their Volkes filters and desert camouflage. The Spitfire IXs seem to have been drawn from regular RAF inventories, and were delivered in the Temperate Day Fighter scheme. At least two were painted in overall aluminium, most likely the high speed silver lacquer post war RAF fighters wore.

    Turkish National Markings during the time these aircraft were in service consisted of red squares with a thick white border in the underwing position only, a red rudder with a white crescent and star centred vertically just above the midpoint, and a white or black tactical number on the rear fuselage. With the Spitfire IX, the National marking was added to the upper wings and rear fuselage, and the tail marking changed to a Turkish flag, painted on the fin rather than the rudder.

    In the case with relations with Germany, Turkey had the advantage. By 1941 Germany’s resources were badly depleted and wanted to obtain chromium ore from Turkey. At that time Turkey was quite a wealthy country and a normal commercial agreement was out of the question. In return for supplies of ore, Germany agreed to deliver modern aircraft, torpedo boats and tanks. The first deliveries of Fw 190A-3s reached Istanbul in mid 1942. Usually described as Fw 190A-3a (ausländisch, an export version with differences in equipment) everything points to the majority being repaired/refurbished combat veterans. The first batch, sent between August and September 1942, included sixteen airframes produced by Arado. Each aircraft cost 510,000, - RM. A number of pilots were sent to the Fliegerhorst Sprottan flight school in Germany for training and at the same time ground staff were trained at Fliegertechnishe Schule 3 in Munich. Training finished in March 1943. Deliveries continued almost without a break until late 1944. In total 72 Fw 190A-3as were received. They were produced by Arado, AGO, and Focke-Wulf with new Werk Nummer from 0134 101 to 0134 172. Delivery was by sea; the aircraft disassembled and packed in wooden crates. They were accompanied by German technicians who supervised reassembly and then stayed to instruct ground staff. Turkish Fw 190s were fitted with the standard BMW 801D-2 engine and FuG VIIa radios which were already obsolete. Some were fitted with surplus British radios that arrived with deliveries of Spitfires. In August 1944 Turkey was resupplied with a further eight Fw 190As (seven had been lost in accidents) with the following serial numbers: 130404, 130327, 130458, 130501, 130527, 132141, 135344 and 135438. There is no doubt that these were examples withdrawn from service when replaced by superior versions or taken from flying schools. By the end of the war acquiring spare parts, especially engine parts and MG 17 ammunition, was a difficult, if not impossible task. An to attempt install British armament failed. It seems either the German constructors did not want to cooperate with the British armament manufacturers or vice versa. As a result of these problems the Fw 190 was quickly withdrawn from service. The Fw 190 was well liked by its pilots who noted good flying characteristics and ease of control and rated it higher tan the Spitfire. In total, 80 examples were delivered to the TuAF, the last being written off in 1949.

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    I'll have to face the outside of the plane remodeling, for the A3 but hey it as work and this work can be tedious and cost a lot but after all is the beauty of this hobby, if you can give me a hand on the subject of modifications has to do on the plane I would appreciate it because from what I've seen outside as Grilles are some of the leaks, the hood of weapons, radio equipment, ect. ect.
     
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    #2 Wurger, Nov 20, 2013
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    Here a couple of corrections you need to introduce if you want to convert the A-8/F-8 into the A-3 variant of the Fw 190A. That's all for now.

    A - the front of the model shortened by 3,5mm
    B - change of the rudder shape and structure.
    C - change of the fin top and antenna mount.
    D - change of the fuselage armament and MG cowling.
    E - change of aileron shape and structure.
    F - change of muvable vent shutters into engine vent-slots.
    G - repositioning and changing of a shape of the equipment compartment cover.
    H - correction of a shape and dimensions of bulges on the engine cowling.
    I - two part wheel bay doors.
    J - removing of the ventral radio compartment hatch.
    K - removing of the FuG16ZE loop antenna.
    L - change of FuG25 antenna placement.
    M - change of elevator shape and structure.

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    #3 Wurger, Nov 20, 2013
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    Fw 190A-3 cockpit conopy ..

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    Fw 190A-2 cockpit interior nearly identical to the A-3 one....

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    A-3 one ....

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    Fw 190A-8 cockpit interior..

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    Props...

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    A lot of work for the conversion, but a good choice. I was wondering if someone would do a Turkish FW or Spit !
     
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    Cool choice Sergio. You're gonna have a lot of work backdating an A-8 to A-3.
    Also great info and details Wojtek my friend. Your nickname isn't Wurger for nothing.
     
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    For if it takes some good job but there lies the fun

    Thanks wojtek of tremendous help,

    Terry then switch to fw 190 because the mk v that I have I will if or when the SAAF and spit mk ix not arrive until the war ended
     
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    THX Igor and Sergio. :)

    Here the second part for the fuselage correction ....

    A1 - First Aid Kit cover moved, the A needs to be removed.
    B1 - changing to the placement of the tank inlet , the B for removing.
    C - the hatch for removing.
    D - for removing.
    E - for removing.

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    This is going to be interesting
     
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    And the third part of marked changings ...

    A - change of ailerons.
    B - change of elevators.
    C - two-part doors of the wheel bays.
    D - Repositioned the Pitot tube.
    E - change of the wing underside MG housing cover.
    F - additional small oval panel.
    G - not used for A-3 wing top rectangle blister for cannons.
    H - different in shape the wing underside cannon housing cover.

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    And here the main landing wheels .....

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    Wow Sergio, what a challenge and such good info coming from the Master. It's going to be an interesting build.
     
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    Great choice Sergio! Hope the suggested mods don't put you off.
     
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    I love the Turkish marked ones, great choice!
     
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    Great choice Sergio, and Wojtek has certainly provided an excellent overview of what will be necessary to do the conversion work...well done!
     
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    great wojtek, nice very nice...
     
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    My plaseure.. :)
     
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    Sure i've got 1/48 Turkish decals somewhere on one of my 190 sheets should someone want to go for it...:D
     
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    first disappointment, the decals for this scale are currently out of stock until further notice, although work wearing it this is not very important moment for all the work that has the reconversion, that if will be slow and costly , if not give me time to finish it by the end of Gb but there will be
     
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    Hope you can get the decals sorted mate.
     
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