1:72 P-51B wood/metal rebuilt

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  1. imalko

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    #1 imalko, Jun 20, 2009
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    Years ago when I started to build my wood/metal models this 1:72 scale P-51D Mustang was one of my first models. At the time it looked fine to me but few years later I was not satisfied how it turned out at all. (Not to mention rust that began appearing on the wings.) For a long time I was considering rebuilding it and think now is the right time to do it, since it would be great rehearsal for next Group Build (Med/N.Africa).

    Anyway, I will rebuilt this model to the appearance of P-51B and post progress pictures in this thread. I can't promise very frequent updates but I will do my best to finish this by the end of July and by the beginning of Med/N.Africa GB.

    For start, here are few photos of old model...
     

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    #2 imalko, Jun 20, 2009
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    This are materials I will use. Basically only part of old model I will use is wooden fuselage. Wings, tail surfaces and everything else will be newly made.
    For my one engined models I usually use aluminium metal sheets 0.5 or 1mm thick, but for this project I have decided to use 2mm thick aluminium for wings just for practice and so I could see how it will look like. For the future projects I will stick to the 1mm thick metal for one engined models and leave 2mm sheets for twins.
     

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    #3 imalko, Jun 20, 2009
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    This is the Mustang I want to make - P-51B of 52 FG USAAF. This was the machine of Lt. Ethan Allen Smith and it was one of 41 Mustangs which on 17th September 1944 provided fighter escort for two B-17s which were delivering arms and supplies to the airfield Tri Duby in Slovakia during the National Uprising. I chose this particular aircraft for three reasons: I like P-51B/C, I have never built one before and with this model I will be able to use paints which I already have so no need for buying new ones.
    As for decals I will draw or print them on ordinary paper.
     

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    My early scratch-built models didn't exist anymore.I have a few small old B&W pics of my paper ones only.That's a pity.
    It is always nice to see the history of our modelling path. Very nice Igor.:thumbright:
     
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    I carved a P-39 in 1/48th when I was a kid with a pocket knife. That was a challenge. Your goal (side-view drawing) is a very ambitious one. I wish you patience and luck.
     
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    I'm looking forward to your progress here Igor. I love the Mustangs, and much prefer the B/C to the D model.
    Have you ever considered cutting off the canopy section, and using it to mould a clear canopy from clear plastic sheet?
     
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    Actually I didn't Terry. I always stick to carving and shaping wood with this kind of models and frankly I must admit I don't know how to do that with clear plastic sheet. (No experience in that department what so ever. :oops:)
    And since the fuselage is made of wood even if conopy would be transparent there wouldn't be much to see beneath it anyway. :lol:
     
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    Look forward to your 'carving' too!!!:D
     
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    #9 imalko, Jun 22, 2009
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    Before actual carving the fuselage the work on the new wings and tail surfaces is needed. This way once when I finish the fuselage the wings will be already prepared for assembly. I started the work today and here is step one...
     

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    Nice Igor. If you ever want to try moulding canopies, let me know, and I'll post a short, illustrated description / tutorial.
     
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    #11 imalko, Jun 22, 2009
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    Thanks Terry. Feel free to post a tutorial, if it isn't too much trouble... I already downloaded few of your tutorials you have posted earlier on the forum (Bare metal finishes, dioramas). I'm always prepared to learn new things about modeling and if not with this particular model I'm sure will put them to good use with some future project.

    Tomorrow I will proceed with cutting the wings...
     
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    OK Igor, I'll put something together soon. I may have to mould a new canopy for the Beaufighter, as the kit has the early style, with more frames. If I can't remove the frames and re-polish succesfully, then I'll mould a new canopy, and photograph the process.
     
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    #13 Wurger, Jun 22, 2009
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    Sounds good Terry . Im looking forward to that.

    Igor these new parts look very nice.But could you tell me why you didn't make them 3D for instance?
     
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    You mean show them in different angle and not only from above, Wojtek? I was going to do that in one of future posts when I cut them...
    Wings are from 2mm aluminium metal sheet and tail surfaces in 0,5mm.
     
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    #15 Wurger, Jun 22, 2009
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    No , no, Igor. I meant the way which is used for paper models.Have you ever seen ( been making) these?

    Here is an example of a such pattern (template) for Bf109F.Rudders and stabilizers can be made in the same way.
     

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    #16 imalko, Jun 22, 2009
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    I see... It never came to my mind to do them that way. Maybe it would be possible but only with very thin metal sheets. Certainly not with these 2mm thick sheets I used for wings in this case.
    I must admit I never saw something like this. (I mean I saw paper models assembled but never in parts as you had shown here.) I was never too interested with that kind of models...
     
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    I see now... But if you use the aluminium plate from beer cans etc.. it can be used for the purpose.Think about it..please.
    How are you going to make the cockpit conopy and what material is considerning for that?
     
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    Entire fuselage, cockpit conopy including, will be made of wood. As with my earlier models of this kind...
     
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    I understand. But you could make the conopy using transparent plastic.
     
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    Igor, if you ever want to make the wings the way Wojtek has shown, you could use litho printing plates. Local printers might have some scrap plates they would let you have. The ones used on small-offset printing presses are normally thin and flexible, especially if they are of the type known as 'Diffusion Transfer' plates, such as the Kodal PMT or the Agfa DT plates. These can be cut and worked easily, using only normall scissors or a work knife, and they will bend and conform well. If you can't get any, and would like some, let me know. I still have a few about 34 x 25 cms, and could send you two or three to try.
     
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