According to Elon Musk the fighter jet is dead LOL
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FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
First, any anti aircraft system has to be able to track it's target, stealth and ECM can still provide that. Sure, you can build a drone that can pull 20Gs but if it's tracked and killed 50 miles before entering the combat zone, so much for that!
I don't believe the manned fighter will be completely replaced by drones but I think drones will supplement the mission.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
1) Elon Musk is a twatwaffle. The less said, the better.
2) Drones will be most of future air warfare. Manned airplanes will still have a vital role, I believe, but it will be as a junior partner.
3) Whether we call SAMs "drones" or not doesn't change their impact on the combat space.
2) Drones will be most of future air warfare. Manned airplanes will still have a vital role, I believe, but it will be as a junior partner.
3) Whether we call SAMs "drones" or not doesn't change their impact on the combat space.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
SAMs are just that: surface to air missiles.
A drone by definition, is a pilotless aircraft.
To put it into WWII perspective:
The V-2 was a missile, the V-1 was a cruise missile and the USN's TDR-1 was a drone.
A drone by definition, is a pilotless aircraft.
To put it into WWII perspective:
The V-2 was a missile, the V-1 was a cruise missile and the USN's TDR-1 was a drone.
Dash119
Senior Airman
A drone can also be a pilotless ship or submarine, not just an aircraft.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Today, the term "drone" is applied to autonomous vehicles/craft, but the term goes well back before modern technology, when pilotless aircraft were given the term (Kettering Bug, de Havilland DH82B and so on).
So I'll correct my terminology:
The TDR-1 was a UAV
So I'll correct my terminology:
The TDR-1 was a UAV
at6
1st Sergeant
Elon Musk is wanting to sell electric fighters?
Now where have I heard this before? 
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Battle Star Galactica reboot?Now where have I heard this before?
Ultimately, there is some danger in creating general artificial superintelligence, as well as artificial intelligence in weapon systems, but the point I was saying was that he contradicts himself willy-nilly.
And I wouldn't be surprised if he has some vision for getting into the fighter-jet market lol
And I wouldn't be surprised if he has some vision for getting into the fighter-jet market lol
BlackSheep
Banned
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Twatwaffle? Compared to you, perhaps.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Not sure of your point. He's a twatwaffle in my opinion. If you think that's wrong, perhaps you should show why, rather than making a not-so-subtle ad homeneim?
BlackSheep
Banned
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- May 31, 2018
no thanks, i'll just quietly admire your greatness.
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In theory AI should not mistakes that humans are capable of, but I still wouldn't have a sleep while driving a Tesla on autopilot down a freeway because AI/computers do really complex tasks in a dumb way (ie. can process lots of inputs 1000 times a second), but there will be some inputs they don't even measure that a human will observe.
I don't think AI fighters would be superiour thinkers to humans its just the plane/drone they fly would have better performance as it would be lighter and pull G without human concerns.
I don't think AI fighters would be superiour thinkers to humans its just the plane/drone they fly would have better performance as it would be lighter and pull G without human concerns.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I know what ya' meant.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
AI should have faster reaction times.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Computers are designed by humans. They are not infallible.
And as such, are very capable of making mistakes, although much faster than a human...
And as such, are very capable of making mistakes, although much faster than a human...
The subject "fighters are dead" was already brought up nearly 70 years ago when stand off weapons capable of (semi)autonomous operation were introduced.
What taly01 says is an often overlooked aspect of artificial intelligence. Unlike humans, an AI cannot get distracted, it may have better sensors and may have even a faster response. But the 'distraction' and curiosity, together with experience of the human mind make it capable of anticipating events a simple algorithm cannot.
A simple example: if I see a group of kids playing near a road I instinctively slow down, not because there is an immediate danger, but because some of them may decide to do something stupid such as chasing a ball in the middle of the road. An AI would just concentrate on the road till it registers an obstacle and it may be already too late.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
It's funny how Musk fanbois get butthurt whenever he is criticized.
Guess who meets my twitfilter now?
