Aircraft ID help

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  1. andershalverson

    andershalverson New Member

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    Hi,
    I'm new and really don't know anything about WWII aircraft. Actually, I'm posting because I'm interested in fish.
    Fish and game agencies began stocking lakes and ponds out of aircraft after WWII. The first planes they used were military planes. I have recently obtained some photos of these early operations and would appreciate it if any of you could identify the plane pictured in these photos:

    fws4572.jpg

    fws4577.jpg

    also at:
    Loading the Plane | Anders Halverson
    and
    Loading Plane with Fish | Anders Halverson

    and finally, can anyone confirm that this is a C-45?

    airstock2.jpg

    also at:
    Loading the Plane | Anders Halverson

    Thanks
    Anders
     
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    meatloaf109 Well-Known Member

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    Well the first two are Grumman Avengers and the third might be a Lockheed Electra
     
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    Great. Thanks. I just Googled Grumman Avenger and that looks right.
    I appreciate your help.
     
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    Definatelly grumman AVenger in the first two pictures.
     
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    Not an Electra... fuselage too skinny. Definitely a C-45. The man pouring the fingerlings is blocking the round window just behind his head/hat. The "odd" looking VHF antenna fairing on the spine of the fuselage is a replacement for the WWII era UHF/HF aerial that would spanned from port vertical fin to just aft of the cockpit.
     
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    Not an Electra... fuselage too skinny. Definitely a C-45. The man pouring the fingerlings is blocking the round window just behind his head/hat. The "odd" looking VHF antenna fairing on the spine of the fuselage is a replacement for the WWII era UHF/HF aerial that would have spanned from port vertical fin to just aft of the cockpit.
     
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    The master strikes again! :lol:

    Good eyes guys. I wonder if that Avenger is modified much?
     
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    Good stuff guys!

    Just to add, the Avenger is a TBM-3, not sure how much it would need to have been modified though. Only external difference on Kiwi TBF's used for crop dusting trials was the plated over turret position (guns removed but turret gear retained), and the modified ventral gun position from their target tug days, when the aerial winch was fitted. AFAIK bomb bays remained in standard configuration.
     
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    Yep, Avenger, with the second aircraft being either a Beech C-45 'Expiditor', or the civilian version, Beech 18. The fitting on the top (American football or UK Rugby ball!) is the housing for the D/F loop.
     
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    Thanks all.
    I was told elsewhere that the third plane was a Beechcraft C-45, so that seems to make sense.
    I don't know what they would have needed to do to the avenger to make it better suited to stocking fish.
    Here's a picture of it stocking trout into Lake Powell, in case anyone is interested.

    fws5066.jpg
     
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    A Cessna on the job-

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    Must have cost a fortune putting little parachutes on all those fish.

    Geo
     
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    Funny, actually they also dropped beaver out of the planes in one effort. Beaver in a burlap sack with a parachute.
     
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    Unless they entered the water in the streamilned pike position to avoid injury
     
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    Excellent pics and a cool website!
     
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    Now that has my attention... oh nevermind. If I say it, FlyboyJ will just cuff me upside my head again. But I'm thinkin' it!! :love4:
     
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    Drop Beaver - cousin to the elusive Aussie Drop Bear!
     
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    Spent a bit in British Columbia. Ate a terrible dinner at Whistler BC during the offseason. A cute lass that was waiting our table warned us of Beaver Feaver. Turns out she was serious. My bad.

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    Had it Matt. Got it during a hunting trip. For 2 months a [email protected] was not to be taken lightly.

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