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the CIA was and is the most potant and powerfull
The National Security Agency (NSA) is the controlling organisation in the States.
No its not lingo its the NRA
I'm surprised the Stasi has not been bought up. I would consider it an 'intelligence' agency - one which gathered intelligence on it's own people rather than those of another country or power bloc. It created a massive network of informers and amassed vast quantities of data on East German citizens. Rarely can the information-gathering apparatus of a state have been so pervasive and so invasive as the Stasi was...
British intelligence was totally compromised by the 1960s so the idea that it "punched above its weight" is ridiculous. This also lead to a long lasting distrust and souring of the relationship between the British service(s) and those of their closest ally in the United States. Intelligence sharing was curtailed for many years.
Ridiculous eh? You will be trying to tell us that no other countries intelligence services were compromised?
I mean, not Russia or America, right? Or is it comforting being in denial? What Intelligence agency experience have you? If you have none then you are giving us your opinion and not dealing in facts.
I'm surprised the Stasi has not been bought up. I would consider it an 'intelligence' agency - one which gathered intelligence on it's own people rather than those of another country or power bloc. It created a massive network of informers and amassed vast quantities of data on East German citizens. Rarely can the information-gathering apparatus of a state have been so pervasive and so invasive as the Stasi was...
British intelligence was totally compromised by the 1960s so the idea that it "punched above its weight" is ridiculous. This also lead to a long lasting distrust and souring of the relationship between the British service(s) and those of their closest ally in the United States. Intelligence sharing was curtailed for many years.
Ridiculous eh? You will be trying to tell us that no other countries intelligence services were compromised?
I mean, not Russia or America, right? Or is it comforting being in denial? What Intelligence agency experience have you? If you have none then you are giving us your opinion and not dealing in facts.
Many intelligence services become compromised to some extent. MI6 in the post war years was penetrated at the highest levels. Kim Philby was MI6 liason to the CIA (as first secretary in the Washington embassy) from IIRC 1949.He was working for the Soviet Union for God's sake! Angleton (you look him up) was so suspicious of him that Bedell Smith (look him up too) threatened to suspend the intelligence relationship between the US and UK until he was removed. Hardly conducive to the security of the NATO alliance.All this is in the public domain and it is all fact,not opinion.
MI6 then spent twenty years chasing its own tail and by all accounts (public again) became a very paranoid organisation to work in and not particularly efficient or effective.I am not denying it its achievments,notably some well known and senior KGB officers that it managed to "turn".
I am a keen amateur historian I can only access material in the public domain,you may be surprised how much there is. Freedom of information means just that.
Steve