Best Pacific Fighter II

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Which is the best Pacific Fighter?

  1. F4U Corsair

    68 vote(s)
    41.7%
  2. F6F Hellcat

    33 vote(s)
    20.2%
  3. P-38 Lightning

    21 vote(s)
    12.9%
  4. P-40 Warhawk

    5 vote(s)
    3.1%
  5. Supermarine Seafire

    3 vote(s)
    1.8%
  6. Ki-43 Hayabusa

    2 vote(s)
    1.2%
  7. Ki-61 Hien

    3 vote(s)
    1.8%
  8. Ki-84 Hayate

    14 vote(s)
    8.6%
  9. Ki-100

    3 vote(s)
    1.8%
  10. N1K2

    6 vote(s)
    3.7%
  11. Other

    5 vote(s)
    3.1%
  1. Catch22

    Catch22 Well-Known Member

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    As Dan put it, the old one's soggy and the results are bogus. Plus it's missing the best Japanese planes, so time for a new one. Hope I didn't mess this one up. I think I got the major ones, but if I missed anything, let me know.
     
  2. Catch22

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    The Corsair. It had better performance values than anything in theater, indeed, almost anything in existence (other than jets of course) plus was an excellent ground attack plane. Basically a near perfect all in one plane, and it's not a "jack of all trades, master of none", as it was superb at both and WAS the master (in the PTO and in my mind anyway) in regards to fighters.
     
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    Corsair.... It had manueverability, speed,and firepower....In fact, It was pretty much good for everything.:)
     
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    I'll go with the Corsair. Not to take anything away from the P-38, but since the F4U was carrier capable, it has a huge leg up.
     
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    But the P38 had the range to go where the F4U's couldnt go when there were no carriers.
     
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    The Hellcat, not as good as the F4U, but it was used on a carrier before the corsair.
     
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    But the P38 could not land or take off from a carrier. The Corsair also took less fuel, less maintenance, was easier for a low time pilot to get proficient in combat in, was a better dive bomber and was a much smaller target for groundfire or enemy AC fire. I don't know what the loss rate of the P38 was but doubt it was as good as the Corsair's.
     
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    P-38 could take off a carrier? Interesting.
     
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    I have seen, P-40s, P-47, P-51s, Spitefires and Hurricanes. I think that I read about the Bf-109 being design for capapult launching. I don't remember see the P-38 on a carrier.

    DBII
     
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    How does that make it a better plane though? :| The British seemed to do just fine with it before the US, it was just in landing doctrine. Performance-wise, the Corsair beats the Hellcat in every area (except maybe climb rate and turn rate, I'm not up on those stats, but certainly speed, range, and payload).

    As for P-38s taking off from a carrier, it's certainly possible. Taking off isn't the problem, it's landing that's the issue.
     
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    It is not productive to spend time saying this or that landbased plane could takeoff or land on a carrier. What is important was whether an AC could successfully conduct operations from a carrier. P47s were launched from a carrier, Hurricanes(not Sea Hurricanes) landed on a carrier without arresting gear, a P51 was launched and recovered from a carrier. That did not make any of those land based planes a carrier borne fighter.
     
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    I believe it was the Bf-109N designed for the Graf Zepplin
     
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    Overall I would have to say Hellcat simply because of it's combat record.
     
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    But a majority of those kills were against poorly trained Japanese pilots.

    It was the Corsair, Wildcat and the P40 that really gutted the best pilots the Japanese had.
     
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    Perhaps I jumped the gun, I'm more of a hellcat then corsair fan. I'll admit, the F4U had the better performance.

    Besides, I have a tendency to root for the underdog.
     
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    The Hellcat entered combat service before the Corsair did(by 3 months) so they had plenty of experienced pilots to fight. Cosair had a 11:1 kill ratio but the Hellcat had more kills. The only real advantage the Helcat had over the Corsair was ruggedness. The Hellcat could take more punishment.l
     
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    I guess what I'm saying is the Cosair was the best all around fighter in the Pacific. JMO.
     
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    #18 vikingBerserker, Jun 12, 2009
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    I have to disagree, even after Midway the IJN was still a formidable force, and it certainly did not effect the IJ Army's combat aircraft.

    I thought the Corsair went into action around the same time the Hellcat did.

    While I think the Corsair, Wildcat, and P-40 were great planes, I just don't see any data where they shot down a massive amount of enemy planes, even trained ones.
     
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    I would rather be in a F4U then any other Pacific crate. The performance is what matters to me.
     
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    The Corsair entered service before the Hellcat, but only by a few months. The reason the Hellcat has such a high kill ratio too is because the Navy didn't use the Corsair, as only the Marines did, until '45 (minus VF-17, but they were basically a Marine unit in function as they flew off of land bases). Swap places and I think the ratio would have been higher towards the Corsair instead.

    Performance wise, nothing in the PTO beats the F4U.

    I'm probably a little biased, I admit that, but I'm not delusional or anything haha.
     
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