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loomaluftwaffe said:Bf stands for Bayerische Flugzeugwerke it still said Bf even after Meserschmitt bought that company. Later it was changed to Messerschmitt Flugzeugwerke. oh and there have been topics like this before...
Bf 109 was the official Reichsluftfahrtministerium designation, since the design was sent in by the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke company. Because the company was renamed to Messerschmitt, some late-war aircraft actually carried the Me 109 designation stamped onto their aircraft type plates. Me 109 was the name used officially by the Luftwaffe propaganda publications as well as by the Messerschmitt company and the Luftwaffe personnel, who pronounced it 'may hundred-nine'. ME 109 (pronounced 'emm ee one-oh-nine') was the contemporary English interpretation of the designation. However, in both wartime and contemporary literature, both the "Bf" and "Me" prefixes are used, and both are considered valid and accurate.
-JJH- said:IIRC the Bf designation was usually used on aircraft that was originally designed prior to 1938. After 1938 this was changed to Me. So, originally 109 was designed earlier and thus received the Bf 109 designation.
Though, this really does not matter what the aircraft is called in what paper, since officially in RLM papers the 109 was ALWAYS 8-109, not Bf 109 or Me 109 or mE/109 or even bF-/%#109. Number 8 was for aircraft (number 9 was for engines, I believe) and 109 was simply the batch number assigned to the aircraft
-JJ-
DerAdlerIstGelandet said:The date 1938 has nothing to do with the change. As of 1939 there still was not Me designation in use it was still Bf. The change came between the Bf-162 and the Me-163.
DerAdlerIstGelandet said:No the actuall date has nothing to do with it. It could have happened in 1944 for all I care, the date has nothing to do with it.
The RLM did not go: "Okay its 1938, lets change the system!"
As for the different manufacturer of the 162.
The Bf-162 program was actually designed in response to a 1935 program for a Schnellbomber. Messerschmitt took a Bf-110 and put a glazed nose on it for a bombadier and the prototype flew in 1937.
DerAdlerIstGelandet said:Um what makes you think that Messerschmitt acquired Bayerische Flugzeugwerk in 1938? It was messerschmitt that designed the Bf-109 in 1935. You are contradicting yourself. Keep telling yourself what you have to, so that you can sleep at night.
-JJH- said:Look, this is all common knowledge and there are probably 1000 books and 100000 websites, that you can browse through and see that all these changes took place in summer of 1938 and how the designations were altered
-JJ-