Crimea_River
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I have a partially finished Eduard Bf-110 on the go on a separate thread. So far I've kept the assembly generic until I picked a scheme. The model is a C version but contains parts for an E. Some parts, like the tires/wheels are actually just for the E but a several other lot of the E parts are missing.
I've settled on a winter Wespe scheme and, as always, want to be authentic as possible. I have used Vasco's "Sting of the Luftwaffe" and "Bf 110 C,D,E and Illustrated Study", both excellent references (Thank-you John!). I also have a couple of volumes on the 110 from Kagero but have doubts on the accuracy of their photo references and profiles.
I've narrowed my search down to trying to replicate the machine in the photo below, which I found on one of the MTO Group Build threads. Unfortunately, I don't see this machine in any of my Vasco references I have but I do have it in one of my Kagero publications (shown below also) but I think there are inconsistencies in what they say about this plane. So with the wealth of knowledge in this community, I'm hoping I can get some answers to the following questions! Here goes:
1) Kagero's caption for this machine says it's a Bf 110 E-1. I think it's a C-2 or w-4 based on these observations:
- There's no small air intake on the nose, charateristic of E's
- No armour plate behind the pilot introduced with the E
- No bomb racks under the wings (so it's likely not a C-7 either)
- Small air scoop in front of the exhausts and single aerial wire preclude this being a C-1
Anyone see any fault with my logic?
2) Kagero caption states the machine to be from II/SKG 210 in the winter of 41/42 although there is no squadron code in the photo, just the individual aircraft designation. Does anyone have any more particular info as to which staffel it belonged? Any info on who the pilot was?
3) I'd agree with the thought that the "S" is probably white (much lighter than the yellow theatre band) so maybe it belongs to 4th staffel if it is indeed from II Gruppe. Valid assumption?
4) Was the spinner white/yellow/black like Kagero says? Photo appears to verify this.
5) There's a dark horizontal strip above the swastika on the tail. Is this a Werke Nr or kill marks? The Kagero profile doesn't show it.
6) It doesn't look like the "S" shows up under the wings within the yellow theater markings. Anyone know if true?
7) If it's a C model like I think, then I'd be inclined to make the base colours 71/02/65 with the winter white over it. Is it possible it carried 74/75/76? I think the switchover to the latter was during the summer of 1940 on production aircraft (ref Luftwaffe Colours by Ullmann) but I think the C's would have been replaced on the lines by D's and E's by then. Thoughts?
Thanks for your help everyone.
I've settled on a winter Wespe scheme and, as always, want to be authentic as possible. I have used Vasco's "Sting of the Luftwaffe" and "Bf 110 C,D,E and Illustrated Study", both excellent references (Thank-you John!). I also have a couple of volumes on the 110 from Kagero but have doubts on the accuracy of their photo references and profiles.
I've narrowed my search down to trying to replicate the machine in the photo below, which I found on one of the MTO Group Build threads. Unfortunately, I don't see this machine in any of my Vasco references I have but I do have it in one of my Kagero publications (shown below also) but I think there are inconsistencies in what they say about this plane. So with the wealth of knowledge in this community, I'm hoping I can get some answers to the following questions! Here goes:
1) Kagero's caption for this machine says it's a Bf 110 E-1. I think it's a C-2 or w-4 based on these observations:
- There's no small air intake on the nose, charateristic of E's
- No armour plate behind the pilot introduced with the E
- No bomb racks under the wings (so it's likely not a C-7 either)
- Small air scoop in front of the exhausts and single aerial wire preclude this being a C-1
Anyone see any fault with my logic?
2) Kagero caption states the machine to be from II/SKG 210 in the winter of 41/42 although there is no squadron code in the photo, just the individual aircraft designation. Does anyone have any more particular info as to which staffel it belonged? Any info on who the pilot was?
3) I'd agree with the thought that the "S" is probably white (much lighter than the yellow theatre band) so maybe it belongs to 4th staffel if it is indeed from II Gruppe. Valid assumption?
4) Was the spinner white/yellow/black like Kagero says? Photo appears to verify this.
5) There's a dark horizontal strip above the swastika on the tail. Is this a Werke Nr or kill marks? The Kagero profile doesn't show it.
6) It doesn't look like the "S" shows up under the wings within the yellow theater markings. Anyone know if true?
7) If it's a C model like I think, then I'd be inclined to make the base colours 71/02/65 with the winter white over it. Is it possible it carried 74/75/76? I think the switchover to the latter was during the summer of 1940 on production aircraft (ref Luftwaffe Colours by Ullmann) but I think the C's would have been replaced on the lines by D's and E's by then. Thoughts?
Thanks for your help everyone.
