Bomber defensive gunners

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  1. Aggie08

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    Has anyone else found that they are waaaaaaaaaaaay too accurate? I don't think I've ever been so frustrated when I got cut in half when I closed on an Me-323 head on at 500kph! Argh!
     
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    Was it the heavily armed E-2/WT version?! Stay away Aggie, stay away!

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    Too over-modelled imho:evil:
     
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    Whatever it was, it kicks my ass every time which was not the case historically.
     
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    Often I can get shot to hell by a Ju-87 or a FW-189 and in real life that hardly happened, but here its more times then not :(
     
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    Me, too. But I guess it's an effort by the producers to make the bombers somewhat more difficult than a C-47...
     
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    True, but I wouldn't mind a function where you could turn the skill of the A.I Gunners from Uber Ace to just plane Joe :(
     
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    That would be a useful gizmo, that's for sure.
     
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    I'm hoping that the Site I posted to you m8 will fix the problem as I hosted a game online tonight and got shoot down as much by A.I Gunners as 'Real' Pilots:(
     
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    Is someone working on it? That would be amazing!
     
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    Unfortunaly the AI in the game doesnt have the same physics as the player :( and its is a major MAJOR FLAW!! do youself a favor and let a zero follow you in a dive, and you'll be diving at 700kph, pull up and check 6 and there is the zero!!! everybody knows a zero sux at diving and WILL brake up, but not for AI. Also if you use "Complex Engine Management" only your plane will overhead not the AI. The worst, they'll have sniper shots through clouds, so dont follow on fight in clouds.

    I think all developers can take a leaf out of the game called "LIVE FOR SPEED"
    (www.lfs.net). The AI in the game LEARNS!!!! The more they participate the more they learn, the better they get!
     
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    I've also found it will take you awhile to catch up with A.I Hurricane's Mk I in any 109E Models as well :rolleyes:
     
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    Yeah, I've noticed stuff like that too, mainly in the steep dives. Today I got shot down by a Storch... Those damn gunners need fixin'!
     
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    I hoping the 'Sound Mod' will fix that as nothing jerks me off more then say, shooting down a Fighter only to bite the dust from a Rear Gunner in a crap plane that wouldn't stand a chance in real life..........grrrrrrrrr :twisted:
     
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    Haha I know! funny for everyone else, though... A single .303 or .50 cal cannot do that to my damn Spitfire!
     
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    I ended always on the grass until I started attacking bombers straight from top and below (russian mountain), this is the way, put a fighter in autopilot and watch how he goes up and below shooting every pass.
    Good luck.
     
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    try to go were the gunners cant shoot the ju87 cant in the 6 oclock if you are below it
     
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    That is what you had to do in real life - attacking a formation of Ju-87's from above and behind could lead to a lot of holes in your plane, below and behind and he would never know you were there until you have taken him down.

    After all the gunners may have over-claimed massively but attacking formations of B-17s was no fun for the Luftwaffe.

    Defensive gunners shot down a lot of inexperienced pilots in WW2, go for the blind spots, or dive-and-zoom. Also for God's sake do not make a beam attack and continue through the middle of a big formation, you will get chewed up from all sides (in BOB 2:WOV I took my squadron through a formation of Dorniers like this once and lost 7 Spits).
     
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