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Right....a new thread! :oops: So far I only know that the PR.9 will be wearing the colours of the No. 13 Squadron, most likely from when they were based on Cyprus and Malta in the 60's.
As for the bomber and fighter versions, it's all open and anything goes....
 

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Jan, that colour pic I sent you of the 13 Squadron bird was a PR7, externally similar to the B2.
I'm getting some more stuff together on the intruders, and other Canberra types/units,which I'll send as soon as it's complete.
 
It might be fun to build one of them as an early RB57


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Airframes said:
Jan, that colour pic I sent you of the 13 Squadron bird was a PR7, externally similar to the B2.
I'm getting some more stuff together on the intruders, and other Canberra types/units,which I'll send as soon as it's complete.
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Thanks Airframe ! - yes, Silver prototype or early production would be cool, as long as you could get a sufficiently realistic silvery spray / enamel.

Some silver sprays / enamels can look a bit like Christmas Gone-wrong .... I know now there are so many more paints available for finishing plastic display models - may be even from car parts shops too ? (even Halfords)

Vietnam Era - I think some B57s were painted 'junglist style' in Nam. That might look good too.

NB: However, I think the Canopy was really very different by then - more long and thin 2-crew tandem style.


Airframes said:
That would be different, rather than the later, black(?) B57's commonly modelled. Nice pic C.
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RAAF

The Aussies were in Nam too, of course, flying Can's that were a lot more along the Brit lines and hence maybe easier to model in this case

The RAAF Canberra in Vietnam
 
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Hiya Wildcat

That IS interesting

Some restorers say that older jets are as easy if not easier to maintain as, say, a spitfire or mustang

Are these planes actually flown or just kept in flyable condition ?



Wildcat said:
Cromwell you'll be interested to know that the Temora Aviation museum in Australia has both a Meteor and Canberra in airworthy condition.

Photos by Rob Fox
source Temora Aviation Museum
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Sorry, I just looked and it confirmed my question - read first, ask questions later


BTW did you read this "the wooden fin fitted to the UK built machines" - for the Canberra !!

WHAT ? Wooden Fins ?? :shock:



Wildcat said:
Cromwell you'll be interested to know that the Temora Aviation museum in Australia has both a Meteor and Canberra in airworthy condition.

Photos by Rob Fox
source Temora Aviation Museum
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One more thing :

I always thought that the RAAF had the right idea with the Sabre - fitting 2 30mm Cannon Sidewinders

Nice !!

The US could have used that power in the Korean war as I understand that the 50s were just too light weight and slow against the Mig 15s




Wildcat said:
Cromwell you'll be interested to know that the Temora Aviation museum in Australia has both a Meteor and Canberra in airworthy condition.

Photos by Rob Fox
source Temora Aviation Museum
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Cromwell said:
One more thing :

I always thought that the RAAF had the right idea with the Sabre - fitting 2 30mm Cannon Sidewinders

Nice !!

The US could have used that power in the Korean war as I understand that the 50s were just too light weight and slow against the Mig 15s
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The USAF did use some 20mm Sabres in Korea it was a trial thing and they mixed the birds in with the 50cal versions as not to give away the fact the 86's were 20mm armed
 
Believe it or not, I actually owned a complete Canberra for a couple of days!
After the Falklands conflict of 1982, there were a small number, 6 or 8 IIRC, laying up at the BAe airfield at Salmsebury, in Lancashire, UK, where they'd been refurbished and prepared for an export order to Argentina. Of course, the 'Falklands' kyboshed this, and the aircraft stood there until around 1987 or '88, when they were disposed of. As they had already, technically, been sold, the company, being Government owned, couldn't actually re-sell them, nor could they give them away. So, to get around the problem of half a dozen unwanted, ageing jet bombers sitting on the pan at the BAe field, they were offered to interested museums, preservation groups and so on, for the princely sum of, if my memory serves me, £1 !! This was the 'administration fee' to cover the paperwork! The problem was, there was a strict, and tight, time limit in which the aircraft had to be moved, which, of course, meant by road, as none of these had permits to fly, nor was it likely that type-rated crews would be found to fly them, even if they were airworthy after standing so long in the open.
Anyway, as BAe was one of my clients at the time, I bunged in my £1, and reserved one of the beasts! Of course, there was no way I had the time, or the means or expertise, to dismantle and move the aircraft, so I let a local garage, which had a small, private aircraft collection, have the Canberra!
Hopefully it's still standing behind the garage, with other 1950's and '60's jets. I moved from the area soon after, and haven't had a chance to go back to see if 'my' Canberra is still alive and well. I'd like to think it is!
 
BTW is this going back to the old discussion of unreliable US made 20mm cannon ? There is some discussion here in quite a lot of detail :-

CANNON, MACHINE GUNS AND AMMUNITION

Brownings Never Die !

It is also interesting that the Brit Army recently bought some 50 cal Brownings for use in Iraq - what a gun !

Same design for, what, 75 years now ?


pbfoot said:
The USAF did use some 20mm Sabres in Korea it was a trial thing and they mixed the birds in with the 50cal versions as not to give away the fact the 86's were 20mm armed
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I have heard of 'Scrappage' (horrible made-up word) - but this is something else !

I also heard you could get Sea Harriers minus radar for a song - ditto Jaguars

Terrible waste of public money - but then MPs know all about that one (ahem)


Airframes said:
Believe it or not, I actually owned a complete Canberra for a couple of days!
After the Falklands conflict of 1982, there were a small number, 6 or 8 IIRC, laying up at the BAe airfield at Salmsebury, in Lancashire, UK, where they'd been refurbished and prepared for an export order to Argentina. Of course, the 'Falklands' kyboshed this, and the aircraft stood there until around 1987 or '88, when they were disposed of. As they had already, technically, been sold, the company, being Government owned, couldn't actually re-sell them, nor could they give them away. So, to get around the problem of half a dozen unwanted, ageing jet bombers sitting on the pan at the BAe field, they were offered to interested museums, preservation groups and so on, for the princely sum of, if my memory serves me, £1 !! This was the 'administration fee' to cover the paperwork! The problem was, there was a strict, and tight, time limit in which the aircraft had to be moved, which, of course, meant by road, as none of these had permits to fly, nor was it likely that type-rated crews would be found to fly them, even if they were airworthy after standing so long in the open.
Anyway, as BAe was one of my clients at the time, I bunged in my £1, and reserved one of the beasts! Of course, there was no way I had the time, or the means or expertise, to dismantle and move the aircraft, so I let a local garage, which had a small, private aircraft collection, have the Canberra!
Hopefully it's still standing behind the garage, with other 1950's and '60's jets. I moved from the area soon after, and haven't had a chance to go back to see if 'my' Canberra is still alive and well. I'd like to think it is!
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Maybe should build a "Terry Can" then....? :lol: The Cans for night intruder missions like those from the No. 3, 14, 16, 88 and 213 Squadrons looks cool, black lower and green/grey upper fuselage, not to mention the all black of some of them! 8)
Any ideas what the FS number is for that one....FS:36314, FS:26270 and FS 26173 for the grey, FS:16064 for the green, I take it that the black is the usual Night Black, FS:37038 right?
 
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