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A far better choice than the Perseus.What about Bristol Pegasus XVIII? 885hp at 2600 rpm at 15,500 ft with 5 1/2 lbs boost on 87 octane. 100 octane gets you 965hp at 13,000. Weight of 535.7kg. Diameter, of course, is going to be about 93mm more than the Mercury.
The earlier the people at Gloster look towards the Merlin and forget the radials good for 1000+- HP at low altitudes, the better.They could have stayed with the Mercury, later versions, as fitted to the Blenheim i.e. the Mercury XV pushed it up to 905h.p.
Or, go for the British imperial adaptions of a French engine the Alvis Pericles more like a 1,000 h.p.
Mind you, apart from the Zero, there is another more comparable aircraft that was produced, and did see service - the Italian Macchi MC200 - 840h.p. licensed built Mercury I believe.
The big problem with the Gloster aircraft, was not having a dedicated team to enable it to be shown at the 1936 Hendon Air Show = export orders and bye bye Glad!!
The issue with machining the sleeves for mass production was solved in March 1938 (1). I am not privy to Bristols production report's, but if the sleeve mass production is sorted by 1938, I expect that all delays subsequent to this were not (or only indirectly) related to the valve operating mechanism. Thus poppet valve Bristol radials would likely have only had a very minor schedule improvement.One wonder what impact it would have had if Bristol hadn't drank the sleeve valve cool-aid? While the Hercules eventually became a reliable and apparently well-regarded engine, sorting it out took a long time, and the Centaurus missed the war entirely. Without the sleeve-valve side-step they might have had a poppet valve Hercules years earlier, and the Centaurus would likely have seen service during WWII. As well as a decent intermediate-sized engine, like a poppet valve Taurus, that could have been a nice powerplant for this Gloster F.5/34. Oh well..
I'm sure you're correct but I just realized what your avatar is for the first time. Cool!The issue with machining the sleeves for mass production was solved in March 1938 (1). I am not privy to Bristols production report's, but if the sleeve mass production is sorted by 1938, I expect that all delays subsequent to this were not (or only indirectly) related to the valve operating mechanism. Thus poppet valve Bristol radials would likely have only had a very minor schedule improvement.
(1) The Bristol Sleeve Valve Aero Engines, Patrick Hassell, Rolls-Royce Heritage Trust, p 122 of "The Piston Engine Revolution".
Strip out the F5/34 to get the empty weight down from 4,190 lb to something closer to the A6M's 3,704 lb (for comparison, Gloster's own Gladiator had an empty weight of 3,217 lb) or the 3,872 lb Bf 109D, while tweaking the best out of the Perseus (the later Perseus 100 produced 1,200 hp) and reducing drag (start with flush main and rear undercarriage and aerodynamically-clean exhaust ports) and we have a starting point. Look at the underside of this thing compared to the A6M below, there's a ton of unnecessary drag here.A bit long winded but there doesn't seem to be any practical way to get the F5/34 into the performance envelope of the A6M2 with the existing engines or with anything in the logical pipeline.
No chance. Gloster's new owners at Hawker-Siddeley already have the Hurricane, and the latter being Camm's baby means the Gloster is not getting a Merlin.Shove the Merlin on it and it becomes far more useful.
HiStrip out the F5/34 to get the empty weight down from 4,190 lb to something closer to the A6M's 3,704 lb (for comparison, Gloster's own Gladiator had an empty weight of 3,217 lb) or the 3,872 lb Bf 109D, while tweaking the best out of the Perseus (the later Perseus 100 produced 1,200 hp) and reducing drag (start with flush main and rear undercarriage and aerodynamically-clean exhaust ports) and we have a starting point. Look at the underside of this thing compared to the A6M below, there's a ton of unnecessary drag here.
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The biggest barrier to seeing a better F5/34 is that Hawker Siddeley acquired Gloster and shut down the F5 program in preference for Camm's Hawker Hurricane. As such, with the F5's cancellation the Group would not field an all-metal single engined fighter until the Typhoon.
I have a what-if on my mind where upon his resignation Hawker Siddeley gives the F5/34 rights to its designer, Henry Folland (of Gnat fame). Folland then takes the prototypes and blueprints to CC&F in Fort William, Canada, where the F5/34 instead of the Gregor FDB-1 is produced using the P&W R-1830 Twin Wasp. Folland and CC&F's Elsie MacGill focus on improving the design and setting up Canadian production for both the RAF and FAA, while offering the F5/34 in CKD to CAC and HAL for Empire-wide production. By Autumn 1941 two dozen squadrons of F5/34 are operational over Malaya.
In the end, to me, the better Zero-like fighter to come out of Europe is the Caproni Vizzola F.5.
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Interestingly, we won't see an Allied single-engine radial-powered fighter with the Zero's full visibility canopy until well into the war with the likes of the Republic P-47D, Centaurus-powered Hawker Tempest and Grumman Bearcat.
The Perseus 100 may have been vapor ware. No picture of it seems to exist (and that was in Feb 1946?)while tweaking the best out of the Perseus (the later Perseus 100 produced 1,200 hp)
The A6M was not more advanced than the F5/34, but it was more aerodynamically efficient and lighter.So the A6M was a more advanced design than the F.5/34, no kidding!
In the end, to me, the better Zero-like fighter to come out of Europe is the Caproni Vizzola F.5.
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Interestingly, we won't see an Allied single-engine radial-powered fighter with the Zero's full visibility canopy until well into the war with the likes of the Republic P-47D, Centaurus-powered Hawker Tempest and Grumman Bearcat.
On the Italian? I believe those are direct exhaust ports coming right off the cylinder head. Most radials have exhaust manifolds directing gases to one exhaust pipe on each side of the motor. So, some streamlining needed there too.What are these blisters around the cowling for, BTW?
To be fair to the Allies, there were several mid-war inline-powered fighters with all round visibility, including the P-51D, later Spitfires and the Yak-9.It is slightly mystifying, really. Surely already WWI taught air forces that keeping your head on a swivel was key to pilot survival? Even if the technology to make 'proper' full bubble canopies like the late-war Allied aircraft was a somewhat later development, surely a Zero-style 'greenhouse' canopy was easily doable by all the major aircraft building nations.
On the Italian? I believe those are direct exhaust ports coming right off the cylinder head. Most radials have exhaust manifolds directing gases to one exhaust pipe on each side of the motor. So, some streamlining needed there too.
To be fair to the Allies, there were several mid-war inline-powered fighters with all round visibility, including the P-51D, later Spitfires and the Yak-9.