Crash Halifax LW192 and Adolf Breves

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  1. Flying Ritchie

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    Can anyone help me in finding photos of seven crewmembers of a Halifax III (LW192) wich crashed on June 17th 1944 in Buren (NL)?
    I'm also looking for more information on theGerman Nightflyer Adolf Breves, who was reponsible for this crash. Does anyine have a photo of him too?

    It would be a great help for me in my investigation.

    Thansk,

    Richard van de Velde (NL)
     
  2. Maximowitz

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    Halifax LW192

    Hptm. Adolf Breves:

    IV./NJG1, Stab IV./NJG1, Stab II./NJG1

    18 Confirmed Victories. Survived the war.
     
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    Thanks for this info!:p
     
  4. Maximowitz

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    A pleasure. I'll see if I can find anything else.
     
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    #5 Maximowitz, Dec 31, 2009
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    Interesting. Breves has three claims for that night, none of which is for LW192.

    At 01:46 a claim for a Halifax at 4,200 m Culemborg-Hilversum. Probably 434 Sqn Halifax LK792

    At 01:50 a claim for a Lancaster at 4,000 m S. Rhenen. That was 550 Sqn Lancaster LM134

    At 01:59 a claim for a Halifax at 3,600 m Steenderen, 9 km S. Zutphen. That was 102 Sqn Halifax MZ643.


    Looks like the culprit for the demise of LW192 was possibly Fw Hugo Futscher, 2./L.Beo.St.(NJG3) a 9 kill ace who claimed a 4-mot over Rotterdam at 4,000 m at around 02:01 that morning.
     
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    #6 Maximowitz, Dec 31, 2009
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    Even more interestingly Tony Wood's Luftwaffe Claims list for the night 16-17th June 1944 does not include a claim made by a Fw. Futscher. There is however a claim by a:

    17.06.44 Fw. Teschner 2./L.Beo.St. 4-mot. Flzg. Rotterdam: 4.000 m. 02.01 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.2

    I think these two might be one of the same with an error made in copying the name from the microfilm.

    Night: 16-17. June 1944
    R.A.F. Bomber Command: STERKRADE/HOLTEN
    JaFü I. Jagdkorps/Lfl. Reich:
    17.06.44 Uffz. Oppermann 1./NJG 1 Halifax östw. FuF. Brisbar at 6.000 m. 00.53 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.34
    17.06.44 Fw. Willi Morlock 3./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. N.W. Tilburg: 5.800 m. 01.02 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.123
    17.06.44 Hptm. Heinz Strüning 3./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Gorilla at 6.000 m. 01.07 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.124
    17.06.44 Oblt. Werner Baake 2./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. Feindhoren: 5.500 m. 01.10 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.102
    17.06.44 Oblt. Josef Nabrich 3./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Kürfurst at 5.500 m. 01.12 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.125
    17.06.44 Hptm. Heinz Strüning 3./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Gorilla at 6.200 m. 01.13 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.126
    17.06.44 Hptm. Wagner 7./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. LN-LO-KO-KN: 5.800 m. [Geldern area] 01.13 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.35
    17.06.44 Fw. Willi Morlock 3./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Brisbar at 4.500 m. 01.14 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.-
    17.06.44 Ltn. Kristopher 3./NJG 7 4-mot. Flzg. Thiel: 5.800 m. 01.20 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.1
    17.06.44 Oblt. Johannes Hager 6./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. Duisburg: 5.400 m. 01.20 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.51
    17.06.44 Fw. Püchner 6./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. Duisburg Objective: 5.300 m. 01.38 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.52
    17.06.44 Oblt. Lippert 10./NJG 3 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Kürfurst at 4.700 m. 01.40 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.27
    17.06.44 Fw. Heinz Misch 7./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. S.E. Arnheim: 5.200 m. 01.40 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.36
    17.06.44 Ltn. Heinz Reuter 7./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Kürfurst at 4.500 m. 01.41 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.37
    17.06.44 Oblt. Johannes Hager 6./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. N.W. Deelen: 4.100 m. 01.43 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.53
    17.06.44 Hptm. Berthold Ney Stab III./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. 15 Ost S/HM at 3.800 m. [Apeldoorn] 01.45 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.14
    17.06.44 Major Schäfer 2./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Kürfurst at 4.500 m. 01.46 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.103
    17.06.44 Hptm. Adolf Breves Stab IV./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. IL-HL at 4.200 m. [Utrecht] 01.46 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.102
    17.06.44 Uffz. Hans Schadowski 3./NJG 3 4-mot. Flzg. 30 km. N.W. Duisburg: no height 01.47 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.96
    17.06.44 Ltn. Hans Schäfer 7./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. IN-IO-HO-HN: 5.700 m. [Stadlohn area] 01.48 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.38
    17.06.44 Oblt. Josef Nabrich 3./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Kürfurst at 6.000 m. 01.49 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.125
    17.06.44 Oblt. Alfons Köster Stab III./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. KM-5 Volkel at 4.000 m. 01.50 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.15
    17.06.44 Hptm. Adolf Breves Stab IV./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. IM-1.4 at 4.000 m. 01.50 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.103
    17.06.44 Oblt. Georg Fengler Stab IV./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Kurfürst at 4.000 m. 01.51 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.104
    17.06.44 Ltn. Hanneck 6./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. Volkel at 4.200 m. 01.53 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.54
    17.06.44 Hptm. Heinz Schnaufer Stab IV./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. St. Trond: 4.000 m. 01.54 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.105
    17.06.44 Hptm. Adolf Breves Stab IV./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. Seiden at 3.600 m. 01.59 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.106
    17.06.44 Hptm. Heinz Schnaufer Stab IV./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. St. Trond: 3.800 m. 02.04 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.107
    17.06.44 Uffz. Sarzio 6./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Deelen: 4.200 m. 02.05 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.55
    17.06.44 Fw. Teschner 2./L.Beo.St. 4-mot. Flzg. Rotterdam: 4.000 m. 02.01 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.2
    17.06.44 Ltn. Fehre 2./L.Beo.St. 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Kurfürst at 4.000 m. 02.12 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.3
    17.06.44 Ltn. Walter Briegleb 10./NJG 3 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Kurfürst at 4.000 m. 02.16 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.28
    17.06.44 Hptm. Paul Förster Stab I./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. Obj. Duisburg: 4.300 m. 02.20 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.56
    17.06.44 Fw. Müller 4./NJG 1 4-mot. Flzg. FuF. Stephan at 4.400 m. 02.24 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.74
    17.06.44 Ltn. Josef Förster 8./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. GG at 2.900 m. [North Sea] 02.32 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.14
    17.06.44 Hptm. Martin Drewes Stab III./NJG 1 Lancaster GH-7 at 4.700 m. [North Sea] 02.16 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.56
    17.06.44 Hptm. Martin Drewes Stab III./NJG 1 Lancaster Amsterdam: 4.500 m. 02.05 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.55
    Kdo. IX. Fliegerkorps/Lft. 3:
    17.06.44 Uffz. Ottren 6./KG 51 4-mot. Flzg. 2225/05 Ost: 4.500 m. [England] 02.00 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.15
    17.06.44 Fw. Trenke 6./KG 51 4-mot. Flzg. 121/05 Ost: no height [England] 02.15 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.16
     
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    Nicely done Max!
     
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    You might have noticed. :D
     
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    I am also researching these crew members,crash etcetera so have e mailed you off board!
     
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    Airfix done this plane, I remember because I bought this kit 3 or 4 years old ago...Breves was one of best, this was one of the best team how Memphis Belle B-17 bomber...
     
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    Hi,

    I realise that this post may be a little late, but I hope that this helps.

    Braddock Eric

    I worked in The Netherlands for many years and have visited the crew's graves in Buren on several occasions, still having friends who live there.

    Kind regards

    Peter
     
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