Airborne2001
Airman
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- Jun 17, 2024
Some people have suggested a potential bird strike, though I've heard that the 787 can still take off on one engine.
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Survivor said 30 seconds after takeoff there was a loud bang.
Some people have suggested a potential bird strike, though I've heard that the 787 can still take off on one engine.A friend of mine from India (he is here in the US at the moment) said there are preliminary reports from people on the ground of at least 1 piece (skin panel?) departing the aircraft a few seconds before the crash.
Some people have suggested a potential bird strike, though I've heard that the 787 can still take off on one engine.
Horrible news and terrible to see. Amazing anyone survived.
Pure speculation what's happened but certainly looks like flaps aren't deployed. Unless it's all hydraulic failure related?
They would have noticed a flap / hydraulic issue during system checks.
They should have. I know the 787 has electronic checklists, but I have no idea if the aircrew can override warnings like that, or how present such warnings even are in the cockpit. I'm assuming one pilot is reading off the checklist, and the other is executing/declaring green, but maybe a faulty indicator, or crew misattention? Or something else?
Obvs it will have to await box recoveries and a full investigation, but I struggle to understand how in such an automated airplane how the crew might be unaware that the flaps weren't down. Of course, I'm not a pilot, so caveats about back-seat driving etc apply.
The more I look at this, I'm wondering if a mistake was made in the cockpit.
The aircraft appeared to initially obtain positive rate of climb. At that point, the crew would have retracted the landing gear. What if the crew mistakenly retracted the flaps instead of the gear? At that low of an altitude there may have not been enough time to recover.
Again, just speculation…
There is some information here that seems to contradict what is in the news.Accident Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner VT-ANB, Thursday 12 June 2025
Air India flight AI171, a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner, crashed following a loss of thrust after takeoff from runway 23 at Ahmedabad International Airport (AMD), India. Of the 242 occupants, o...asn.flightsafety.org
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How does that contradict what's in the news? This is exactly what they say here in the news.There is some information here that seems to contradict what is in the news.
The fatalities are 241 of the 242 on board.
There are about 50 additional fatalities on the ground.
The engine were stated to be Rolls Royce Trent 1000 type.
Configuration seems a bit odd for being 600 feet in the air, Gear was down but flaps were up.
Did an idjit pilot mistakenly retract flaps instead of gear on takeoff???
How does that contradict what's in the news? This is exactly what they say here in the news.
The first videos I was watching claimed 600+ feet for altitude. This has been corrected to about 330 feet.How does that contradict what's in the news? This is exactly what they say here in the news.
The stall can be seen in the video during the decent, just before it is out of sight.Not seen that many fatalities on the ground only 10 or so. Still horrific.
Seems from the survivor it stalled but obviously no idea why. Black boxes have been recovered so guess we'll have more information soon.
British man describes how he escaped Air India wreckage