Flying boats....

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  1. Lucky13

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    Knowing that they glory days are long gone, at least for the massive 'Clipper' size ones, will we ever see the likes again, would they find a place today and in the future?
    Much can be said about the airships...

    Had a bl**dy hard time trying to figure out, where to put this thread, as we don't have a 'Future' sub forum.... :lol:
     
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    #2 michaelmaltby, Dec 2, 2013
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    "....would they find a place today and in the future?..."

    Don't announce their death quite yet, my friend ..... :) .. from both a classic 'stylistics' POV and a technological (turbos) upgrade POV, flyingboats are iconic - and always will be:

    The Flying Boat is Back | Flying Magazine
     

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    Personally I would love to see more floatplanes/ Flying Boats/ amphibious aircraft around, but I believe their time has been and gone sadly. :(

    (Clashed with Michael... I will be very happy if my above comment is proved wrong!)
     
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    Actually, it seems that airships might be making somewhat of a comeback.

    Zepplin is making a non-ridgid model as well as planning a future ridgid design and there's a couple companies in the process of making ridgids for freight/heavy-lift and passenger service. One of the projects is called "sphero" if I remember right.
     
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    #5 Lucky13, Dec 2, 2013
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    Good stuff fellas!

    Btw MM, that last bird, looks unmistakably like a Dornier..
     
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    Don't tell the people of Alaska that float planes are long gone! :)
     
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    #7 michaelmaltby, Dec 2, 2013
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    "...that last bird, looks unmistakably like a Dornier.."

    .. because it is .... from the same bloodline :). Dornier Seastar, breeding, eh?
     
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    Flying boats (as distinct from float planes) served a purpose at a particular time. For the British in particular they were an ideal vehicle to support a maritime empire. There might be no airfields or infra structure but there was sure as hell water to land on.
    I can't see them making a commercial come back because the market is not there. Billions have been and continue to be invested in airports and all the infrastructure, transport links etc to support them. I have recently flown into some new airports in Asia and with that kind of investment a flying boat is simply not a consideration.
    Smaller flying boats and more often float planes will always serve a niche market. Someone already mentioned Alaska which is a case in point. Many smaller float planes are simply adaptations of already existing aircraft that were not specifically designed to operate from water. Many are simply converted with a 'float kit'. The fact that you can also sell a standard land based version makes them commercially viable.
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    I'm moving to Alaska then! :) :)
     
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    #10 ccheese, Dec 4, 2013
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    You are absolutely correct. Flying boats and float-planes abound in Alaska. I saw several Beech 18's (aka C-45) on floats, and they make excellent units for hauling cargo or passengers. Also saw quite a few Grumman products while I was there. And, of course, there's the ever popular Beaver !

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    #11 GrauGeist, Dec 4, 2013
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    Japan, Germany, Canada and Russia have recently produced flying boats. Last one for the U.S. that I know of was the Wilson Explorer in 1991.

    If I had a ridiculous amount of money, I'd commission a Bv238 which would be ideal for finding that perfect tropical island with the white beaches, warm breezes and the girls serving those drinks with the little umbrellas...
     
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    I can see that there could be an economic case for Canada and Japan developing a flying boat, given the number of islands and the spread of these countries. But Germany?
     
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    They love thier seaplanes! :lol:

    The Dornier Seastar is even being manufactured in Canada. It may be of interest to know that the Seastar borrows some of it's design from the Do18 and Do28...
     
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    Who needs to build "modern" flying boats? Not when the most beautiful one ever build is still flying...

    dornier_do24.jpg
     
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    Nice pic! and I do like the look of that Seastar :cool:
     
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    True, there's plenty of Catalinas still flying.... ;) :lol:
    I've got to say though, I do like the Dornier Do 24, great looking bird! Wish one could get modern reliable engines, so that you wouldn't ruin her looks, like with those awful turboprops!
     
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    I agree, I would rather see original engines on her.
     
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    Me too! Plus get the wing tips, etc back in original form - IIRC they have been modified, cut on an angle from the leading edge outwards.
     
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    Really? Didn't notice that! See if there's any better pics of the wing then....
     
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