Fokker E.V ( Polish) model

[StuartA]

Fokker E.V .... the checkerboard was created by Lt.Stefan Stec as his personal insignia,later adopted by the Polish Air Forc.Why do I know this I hear you ask!Well hanging on my wall is a 50" span model of said Lt's Fokker.Which was found in the attic of a house my daughter and partner bought to renovat.I've repaired and repainted where necessary,but it's not flyable.She wants to display it when the house is finished

 

[Wurger]

Fokker E.V ... tThe checkerboard was created by Lt.Stefan Stec as his personal insignia,later adopted by the Polish Air Forc.Why do I know this I hear you ask!Well hanging on my wall is a 50" span model of said Lt's Fokker.Which was found in the attic of a house my daughter and partner bought to renovat.I've repaired and repainted where necessary,but it's not flyable.She wants to display it when the house is finished

Looking nice. But the Polish Checkerboard is of inccorect layout. According to the order no.38 of 01-12-1918 the left top square was of the red then the white one next to. The contrasting White-Red outline was introduced later but the red-white order of top squares was still the same on both wing surfaces.

The pic source:

Najsłynniejszy polski Fokker – okiem modelarza

Polskie lotnictwo wojskowe tworzyło się i wchodziło do walki jeszcze przed formalnym odzyskaniem niepodległości ...

armahobbynews.pl

Polskie znaki lotnicze – historia szachownicy

Szachownica w narodowych barwach polskiej flagi, to jeden z najważniejszych polskiego lotnictwa.Kto jako pierwszy użył szachownicy?Twórcą szachownicy był Stefan Stanisław Stec, pilot i inżynier walczący w wojsku polskim i austro-węgierskim. Podczas służby w wojsku ...

www.modele.edu.pl

Szachownica

Ilustrowany magazyn historyczno-modelarski

www.minireplika.pl

 

[StuartA]

That's the same site my daughter found her info! I hadn't noticed the switch,thanks.

 

[PlasticHero]

Why is the fuselage marking different from the rest of them? I love the history of how markings of all types evolve. Somehow they seem both immutable yet effervescent.

 

[Wurger]

That's the same site my daughter found her info! I hadn't noticed the switch,thanks.

My pleasure.

 

[StuartA]

Must be a rare thing for an air force to adopt a personal insigni.Quite a honour for the guy.

 

[Wurger]

Why is the fuselage marking different from the rest of them? I love the history of how markings of all types evolve. Somehow they seem both immutable yet effervescent.

The pictures above were taken in April 1919 in Lvov when the plane got the Stec's personal emblem, the "S" with the wind rose. Earlier the plane didn't have the marking there. Additionally, the white number 001 was moved forward and the rudder got the Red/White strips.
The Fokker was one of a several of planes captured in Poznań at the beginning of the January 1919. A week later a couple of them was sent to Warsaw. The Polish insignias were applied by the CWL ( The Central Aviation Workshop ) in Warsaw. It is said there was a kind of flexibility in the shape of the markings because these were applied separately on the main components of the disassembled kites. I mean the fuselages, wings and rudders. Also it is said that the fuselage checkerboard at the port side of the Stec's Fokker was a mirror reflection of the straboard one and was of different shape initially. But there is no evidence.

However the Polish markings on the fuselage were applied in the same way for other known Polish Fokker E.Vs overhauled by the CWL.

Also please notice that also the wing markings also could be of the different variant of the Polish Checkerboard. The kind of marking was the earliest form of the checkerboard used by the Polish AF

the source: "Ten drugi" Fokker

 

[StuartA]

Thanks for the info.I reckon whoever built my example must have seen that 2nd photo

 

[Wurger]

That's very likely.

 

[StuartA]

Cool,got its own thread.

 

[Wurger]

Would be nice if you could post a couple more pictures of the model. Eg... from side , etc ..

 

[StuartA]

Well you asked!The wings should be held with rubber bands,I made some different fixing to display it.Also cleaned up the motor,painted the exhaust etc.
The fifth pic shows the state it was in before I started.I cleaned the paintwork with salt and vinegar,came up quite well.The "wing" between the u/c was badly damaged,that's the only part I replaced.One of the legs is bent,I never did manage to straighten it.

 

[Wurger]

Cool. It must have been a great flying model. Actually tha camo should be of the standard German one I mean the lozenge on the fuselage, tails and the "damp patch/smudge " two-tone type on wing top/bottom.

the source: Najsłynniejszy polski Fokker – okiem modelarza

 

[Wurger]

I have found one more shot and it looks like that's the Fokker no.001. The starboard checkerboard can be noticed partially. But the right top square is dark ( red ) what means that the marking had the left top square white like the one on the port side.

the source: Sylwetki Lotników II RP 1918- 1920.

IMHO that's the same plane ...

the source: Najsłynniejszy polski Fokker – okiem modelarza

 

[StuartA]

Good info,thanks.How the heck would you replicate that camo at 1/72.It'd be tedious enough doing on the example I have.

 

[Wurger]

It is possible with templates. But also you may purchase decal sheets with the pattern. Both for the four-colour and the five-one. Here a couple of egzamples ...

Lukgraph decal ...

PrintSacle one ...

Techmod one ...

But the Lozenge also comes with the Arma Hobby kits

 

[StuartA]

Ah,should have guessed!
Do you have any info regarding WWII schemes,particularly the one in the photo?

 

[Wurger]

This is a pure SF I would say and does have nothing in common with the reality. However it looks like RLM 82 blotches over the RLM 76.

I suggest browsing the Technical section -> Aircraft Markings and Camouflage , especially the sub-one for the Luftwaffe Aircraft Camouflage and Markings

Luftwaffe Aircraft Camouflage and Markings

This thread will be for the discussion of Luftwaffe aircraft markings and camouflage. Enjoy

ww2aircraft.net

 

[special ed]

The model appears to have an early HP .40 R/C engine and Ace R/C wheels which leads us to the 1960s for the flying model's approximate age. Still in excellent shape.

 

[StuartA]

Yes that date tallies with what daughter found out about the previous owner.I did suggest passing it on to the local club,or the Polish Association in town,but she wants to hang on to it.