FW-190 and The Battle of Britain (2 Viewers)

Njaco · 2024-12-11T08:59:42-0500

The Fw-190 was first seen in combat in August 1941. I'm curious what would have been the outcome if it was seen a year earlier in August 1940, in time for the BoB? Would Germany have gained air superiority for Operation Sea Lion or just prolonged the eventual outcome?

rochie · 2024-12-11T09:57:22-0500

My thoughts are just like what happened in 1941, there would of been a temporary advantage to the Fw 190 then the RAF would of reacted, probably in a similar way to how they did historically to close the gap in performance of its fighters

tomo pauk · 2024-12-11T10:51:37-0500

Topic for the what-if sub forum?

The Fw 190 in 1940, that is equivalent of the Fw 190 in 1941, still has the same short radius and a very troublesome engine. The 190 was on the verge of being cancelled in 1941 even though it never ventured much above the Chanel.
British can keep out of the reach ( LW can bomb the corner of Kent closest to France to their heart content), pounce the retreating LW - there is no enough of fuel left both for combat at the return leg and to actually make it to home - and the Spitfire III actually materializes.

Howard Gibson · 2024-12-11T11:02:44-0500

Njaco said:
The Fw-190 was first seen in combat in August 1941. I'm curious what would have been the outcome if it was seen a year earlier in August 1940, in time for the BoB? Would Germany have gained air superiority for Operation Sea Lion or just prolonged the eventual outcome?

What sort of engine would the Fw190 have had in in 1940? The BMW801 was not reliable in 1941.

Njaco · 2024-12-11T11:23:24-0500

tomo pauk said:
Topic for the what-if sub forum?

The Fw 190 in 1940, that is equivalent of the Fw 190 in 1941, still has the same short radius and a very troublesome engine. The 190 was on the verge of being cancelled in 1941 even though it never ventured much above the Chanel.
British can keep out of the reach ( LW can bomb the corner of Kent closest to France to their heart content), pounce the retreating LW - there is no enough of fuel left both for combat at the return leg and to actually make it to home - and the Spitfire III actually materializes.

I guess I have been away so long, I wasn't aware there was a sub-topic. If the Admins want to move it, be my guest!

Wurger · 2024-12-11T11:26:52-0500

Done.

yulzari · 2024-12-11T12:01:39-0500

tomo pauk said:
LW can bomb the corner of Kent closest to France to their heart content), pounce the retreating LW - there is no enough of fuel left both for combat at the return leg and to actually make it to home - and the Spitfire III actually materializes.

That corner was within coastal artillery range and was shelled for four years. No need for the Luftwaffe to be involved. Shells reached almost into Chatham from France from the 21 cm (8.3 in) Kanone 12 in Eisenbahnlafette.

Curiously both the Germans and the British had coastal artillery there yet coastal shipping continued to pass along the Channel and neither side hit very much in the way of ships.

Edit: Hellfire Corner - British Guild of Tourist Guides

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