Galland Bf109 24th September

[smithart101]

Hi Lads,

this one is of Galland shooting down the Hurricane of Harold Bird-Wilson near Rochester (Thames estuary), 24th September during the Battle of Britain. Bird-Wilson bailed out and was picked up from the water badly burnt but alive.
Your comments are appreciated as no doubt there are some errors! Not sure if this A/C had the mickey mouse at this point or if the tail markings are correct, although the 4th row of markings is obscured by the tail plane. Spinner correct for this date?

thanks, Simon

 

[Njaco]

Heavy discusion along with numerous pics here.....

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/aircraft-pictures/gallands-bf-109s-17889.html

 

[smithart101]

I notice photo #3 ,on your thread Njaco, has the hollow spinner and mickey mouse ears visable. The foliage on the trees and light suggests late summer/autumn. Is there a date for that photo?

 

[Njaco]

I believe that that pic was part of a series that were eventually posted throughout the thread. Let me check.

There was also a detailed discussion here about his 109...

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/start-finish-builds/gallands-bf-109e-4-1-32-scale-27756.html

 

[Airframes]

Can't see these pics either - the only ones on the forum I can't see !
Any chance of uploading them direct to the forum?

 

[smithart101]

How about now?

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii188/smithart101/GALLAND109.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii188/smithart101/galland109detail.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii188/smithart101/gallandrudder.jpg

 

[Wayne Little]

First correction, at this time the first 30 victories were RED, and I now believe that 36 and 37 were RED also, in ALL previous data/info these two have always been seen to be BLACK. Soon after the rudder was repainted yellow and a Lt. Blue RLM 65 rectangular patch was added and the victory bars were repainted on this blue area in a slightly different position from the previous application, for some strange reason the sequence of Red victory bars changed to 1-22, 36, 37 and 41 being RED the rest in Black. This is based on the next confirmed photo showing 45 victories on the blue background.

 

[Airframes]

Ah! I can see them now.
Agree with Wayne re the abschuss zeichen. Far as I know without checking, the Micky Mouse badge should be there, and the spinner was un-capped at this date. No doubt Wayne can confirm or correct as required.

 

[smithart101]

thanks Wayne, thats very useful.

 

[smithart101]

Wayne, any comment on the mickey mouse emblem or capped spinner?

 

[Wayne Little]

Spinner was uncapped at this time.

The Mickey Mouse Emblem, as I understand it was not applied at the 40th victory, it was sometime shortly after when the telescope/gunsight? was also fitted.

 

[smithart101]

Okay, thanks for the info Wayne.

 

[Wayne Little]

You're welcome Sir!