George Lucas planning to make a WWII film "Red Tails"

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  1. Soundbreaker Welch?

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    Based on the Tuskegee Airmen.

    Don't know how that will turn out.



    Just to clear up, George Lucas is not directing his first non-Star Wars movie in 35 years. I repeat, George Lucas is not returning to the director's chair. Once again ... never mind, I think you've got it.

    Two days ago there was an AP story about Lucasfilm's Tuskegee Airmen film, Red Tails -- perhaps you caught my post -- but it didn't note what Lucas' involvement would be. As I wrote, the article seemed to assume that he was directing the project. A number of sites around the web also treated the news (more like an update) as if it claimed that Lucas was indeed helming the WWII-set picture. Others speculated that he was taking the reigns. Well, he's not. He's merely serving as executive producer. There is no director signed on yet.

    The clarification comes via David Cohen, posting on Anne Thompson's blog. He relates the following facts received from Lucasfilm: the only people on board so far are Lucas, producers Rick McCallum and Charles Floyd Johnson and screenwriter John Ridley. There is no distributor, no financing yet. And while Lucas is not going to direct the project, neither is Steven Spielberg, who apparently is not interested.

    While I'm sure that some people are disappointed by this update, I've seen enough comments around this week to believe that most will be relieved Lucas isn't directing. But now the real question is: will he ever direct again?




    Haven't had much P-51 stuff in movies since "Empire of the Sun," and even that was just one scene.

    Oh yeah, and "Dogfights."
     
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    Perhaps Lucas willl use this as an opportunity to atone for all his previous tripe.
    Nahhh... it will be utter mainstream crap geared towards selling Christmas toys!
     
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    I wonder if he's hoping it will do better if Barack Obama becomes President.
     
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    Lucas is a marketeer bent on making money. I think your comment has merit.

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    thanks.

    Nice to know someone else is on here too. it's gettig pretty late where I'm at.
     
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    Silly walkin Bastard, I like the siggy Cosimo.....

    There are soooo many other topics worth making a movie about concerning the air-war during WW2.... Why a bunch of over-hyped black guys flying Mustangs is more interesting than say the Cactus Air force or the Black sheep or the disasters at Schweinfurt (sp) or Cassel is lost on me....

    There already has been a movie about the Tuskeegee Project, and in it they propagated the myth even more so about not losing a single bomber while escorting....


    Pure horseshit...
     
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    More than likely this will be the same story that everyone knows. In this politically correct world, he will not be able to tell the thruth with Rev. Jackson or the NAACP sueing his ass.
     
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    I don't got anything against George Lucas but I agree with you on this one. I think remakes can only go so far. Directors should use their talents to make new movies of other events in WWII that were just as, if not more, significant.

    Even so, you can only hope that they direct/film the movie while still giving the event it's justice. For a lack of better words let me sum it up this way- we don't need another "Pearl Harbor".
     
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    Exactly. I was just watching Pearl Harbor (using the skip button liberally) and i was thinking that we just need a good film about aerial combat in World War II. With all the CGI and special affects you could make a great movie. I think it would be good if it was similar to a Band of Brothers feel.
     
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    Thanks Les... They dont make comedy ike that anymore!

    If they want to make a movie about the contribution of African Americans, why not The Red Ball Express? The advance on the western front woulda been much more slow without the supply lines staffed mainly by blacks.

    It may not be as sexy of a topic but they did more to win the war then the Red Tails.

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    Comiso - I totally agree about Red Ball Express, an important untold story.

    Red Tail smells of politics but I suppose it won't be out with Obama starring before November
     
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    it should be lame and probably some self glorification, sure the 332nd is not well known but so is the 8th AF 356th fg which their story should be definately told, or how about Bill's Dads outfit the 355th fg ...........geez there is so much with all the new tech from the best to now.......

    forget the silly politics and this is exactly what it is about
     
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    The 355th, while exciting, would be kinda depressing with all the guys goin in with their Mustangs on those damn airfield strafing missions... They's also have to skip over all those bad weather socked in days....

    I would like to see a mainstream big budget movie about the battle to reach 300 kills... And all the guys who died trying to reach the most improbable of victories....

    Some big name actor has to play Hartmann and Barkhorn...

    Who could pull it off???
     
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    Red Ball Express ws made with Sydney Poitier. Not a bad movie.

    Red Ball Express (1952)

    There are sooooo many other stories they could make into movies. How about the Finnish flyers. Or the attack on Bari (the Pearrl Harbor of the Med). So many others.
     
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    the prob Dan would be it would be centered around a "bad guy" and that isn't going to sell in this world now or ever, no monies made, doing an aerial battle might be another thing just like November 26th or 27th 1944 or.....Schweinfurt like you mentioned ~ Kassel castastrophe or .........

    how about the graphics for chasing Me 262's after it goes through a B-17 box and then chased by Mustangs over it's AF ? many scenarios could be filled, just think getting back to the 332nd fg we are going to see the B.S. myth about this unit never losing a heavy bomber under it's protective care which is pure nonsense
     
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    Agreed, that would be something. The actors should be german definately even speaking english I think they probably get closer to the historic character.
     
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    The primary reason the 355th is important is the collective 'whole' of 66 years (very long for uSAF) of excellence from WWII through VietNam and today. The 355th was ony 5th of 15 for air scores in the 8th, but number 1 on ground scores ant number 3 in losses attacking German airfields.

    But in Viet Nam - two Medal of Honors ot the total of 12 awarded in the AF, six AFC's contraste with 7 DFC's awarded to 355th in WWII. 202,000 tons of bombs dropped in Vietnam by F-105s (1/3 of B-17 total, all in, every combat org, in in WWII) in only18 months of combat over the highest threat environment ever encountered by USAF, and 20 Migs air- 9 ground, number two only be behind Robin Olds' Wolfpack - and as Billy Sparks - Wild Weasel Commander said, " we were the bait".

    Tip your hat to all of them, every single, swing di#k that strapped on a chute and took off to meet whatever fate awaited them be thay Chinese, N.Korean, Japanese, Brit, Aussie, Canadian, German, Russian, Pole - whatever. They had balls, and the ones that were terrified had bigger balls.

    The 332nd is 'interesting' by comparison to about 25-50 USN/USMC Air Wings and USAAF Fighter Groups and even single squadrons with higher totals in WWII. We haven;t even mentioned such 'pitiful' combat orgs like the RAF and LW and VVS and IJN fielded.

    I respect the 332nd for their service but puleeeeeze put it in historical perspective. It has taken on the persona of 'Hancock" playing at your local theatre today.

    I think I will gather my Wolfies, grab a beer and 'sing' with them.
     
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    Who in the hell would you cast as Hartmann, Rall, Bader, Johnson, (Case), Boyington, Yeager, Bolt, Rudel, Gabreski or Preddy (or Sakai, etc). IMHO there isn't a character or actor today who has the remotest concepts of what it takes to be a fighter pilot.. Back in 'the day' guys like McQueen, Bronson, Connery, Lee Marvin, Robert Mitchum, maybe Tommy Lee Jones or a young Gene Hackman, might have pulled it off if they had the skills at the age of 20-22 - but who today? Clooney, Pitt? Pulleeeeze, Angelina would be better. Clive Owen maybe, Denzel Washington, maybe..but Lucy lawless (Xena) would be more credible than the last generation of young actors

    Nobody asked my opinion - I'll go get the 12 wolfies and grab a beer
     
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    Orlando Bloom did blackhawk down as a helicopter pilot, but I don't think he would bring a lot of character to a role as a WWII fighter pilot.


    Oh I'm am so glad, that he can't star in it.........yet.

    It would be just like him if he became President to star himself in a risky exciting role as a "top gun" pilot, even Hitler and Stalin didn't do that.

    The media would praise him to the skies for being so versatile.:rolleyes:


    But at least he wouldn't be the first. Ronald Reagan was the first. But I'm glad Reagan did it before he became President.
     
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    Nodody said it going to be easy :lol:
     
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