Germany goes for centrifugal flow turbojet engines? (4 Viewers)

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Again with the hostile response. Calm it down. You get defensive whenever anyone questions what you say, you don't provide what you expect others to do and you call everyone names when they counter your points or call them out. Play nice.
This is coming from a man who was constantly provoking me with his rudeness. ))) And as soon as he received the same coin in return, he immediately started talking about my hostility.
Stop preaching, better look for some numbers to argue your unsubstantiated statements.
 
It is a totally new independent design, having V-1710 at the initial design stage.
Nope! Nope! Nope! Read the definitive work on the P-47, Warren Bodie's extensively researched book, "Thunderbolt!" It was based on the P-43 which was based on the P-35 which was based on Seversky's two seat sportplane. After the P-43 showed promise Republic abandoned its initial P-47 concept, a lightweight fighter using a V-1710 and enlarged the P-43 with the same arrangement but a R-2800 instead of a R-1830, to make the P-47. FACTS!
 
I guess it depends on what "enlarged with the same arrangement" means

So if I take a P-35 and scale it up 13.1% I get a P-47 I can drop a R-2800 into ?
Off course the gross weight clean about doubles but what the heck,
Wait a minute, if I multiply the wing span by 1.13 (difference in percentage of the wing span) then by 1.13 again (13% longer cord ) I only get 280 sq ft of wing area, not 300 sq ft.
Is my math wrong or did they 'tweak' the outline just a bit?
Of course the fuselage got about 33% longer (just under 27ft to just over 36ft)

I am so confused
 

No objection there. Nazism needed to be utterly crushed, and it was good that it was. Not that Soviet communism was much better, but alas..


Yes, and no. I'm not sure a 2000 hp engine, per se, would have been that necessary. The Allied heavy bomber fleets that flattened Europe were using ~1200 hp engines, and the arguably best piston fighter of the war, the Mustang, didn't have a 2000 hp engine either. The Allied 2000 hp engine equipped planes certainly helped, but honestly I don't think the air war would have been lost without them either. But the goal of powerful next generation piston engines is perhaps instructive of the German engine development effort flailing in all kinds of directions instead of focusing on improving their basic engines (605/603/213), which still had plenty of potential left in them.

As for the jets, yes it was very early days for jet propulsion and they suffered from all kinds of problems. However, I'd also argue that jets represented one of the few ways that could have allowed the LW to face the onslaught of Allied air power from say late 1943 onwards. Incrementally better piston engine aircraft weren't going to cut it anymore.


This is, generally, how dictatorships work. The strongman at the top stays at the top by playing the various factions against each other and have them compete in bootlicking. It's inherent in how the entire system works. Nazism, fascism, communism, it's all the same.

Democracies may seem weak and impotent, endlessly debating things in public. But once they decide to act, they are immensely powerful.

There might be a lesson here for the modern world as well..
 

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