A4K
Brigadier General
Would agree there.
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I wouldn't accept Soviet sources at face value. Falsification of official records was standard practise in Stalin's Soviet Union. That includes both troop numbers and production data.
I wouldn't accept Soviet sources at face value. Falsification of official records was standard practise in Stalin's Soviet Union. That includes both troop numbers and production data.
Just for the record
"German casualties stood, as of 1 November 1941, at 686,000 men--20 percent of the 3.4 million, including replacements, committed since June, the equivalent of one regiment in every division. Of half-a-million motor vehicles on the Eastern Front, a third were worn out or damaged beyond repair; only a third were fully serviceable. Panzer divisions were down to 35 percent of their original tank strengths. The OKH itself rated the 136 divisions on the Eastern Front as equivalent to no more than 83 full-strength divisions."
After the Smolensk battle, most pie in the sky pro-german sources paint a picture of moscow being completely exposed.
I have some problems with the definition "German casualties"!
German casualties as of 1 November 1941 were 677491 men (KIA, MIA, Wounded)! 226297 (KIA, MIA)!
The average return rate of wounded soldiers was between 50-60%!
This numbers are only for the east front!
Source: Deutsche militärische Verluste im Zweiten Weltkrieg by Rüdiger Overmans.
Anyway the "casualties" and loss of material were higher then estimated, but the casualities, losses of material and the Red Army (in general) weren't to my personal opinion the decisive factors till december 1941 for the Wehrmacht at Barbarossa.
The decisive factors were the permanent changes of the strategic goals (first Middle, then North, then South, back to Middle), Hitlers inability to make decisions to a focal point, the change to the south to get Kiew (worst failure in terms of Clausewitz and the strategic goal), and Hitlers want of confidence in the strategic and tactical leadership of his Generals.
One of the worst failure was the not capture of Leningrad and North Russia till the end of August to get a stable supply platform through the Baltic Sea and the russian harbours.
Till December 1941 the Red Army was in some state of paralyse and has only the potential to do some local limited action, but to my opinion was not able to do a coordinated huge general action as the Winteroffensive!
To my kmowledge this isn't quiet correct. This picture was painted after Wjasma and Brjansk, but not after Smolensk!