Grand Theft Aircraft

Discussion in 'Aviation' started by Smokey, Jun 11, 2008.

  1. Smokey

    Smokey Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2004
    Messages:
    532
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Here are some examples of grand theft aircraft. Does anyone know any more?

    Hero of the Soviet Union T. Kuznetsov survived the crash of his Il-2 in 1942 when shot down returning from a reconnaissance mission. Kuznetsov was able to escape from the wreck and hid nearby. To his surprise, a German Bf 109 landed near the crash site and the pilot began to scrounge around the wrecked Il-2 for souvenirs. Thinking quickly, Kuznetsov ran to the German fighter and used it to fly home, barely avoiding being shot down by Soviet fighters in the process.

    Ilyushin Il-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Bob Hoover managed to escape from the prison camp, stole a Fw 190, and flew to safety in the Netherlands
    "I just opened the throttle full power," he said. "I didn't taxi out. I just went straight out across the grass field without going on the taxiway to the runway. I got airborne and pulled the gear up. Then, the stupidity of what I was doing hit me. I thought, 'Here I am in a German airplane, no parachute; some second lieutenant right out of flight training could wipe me out in an instant.'"

    Bob Hoover - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Airport Journals
     
  2. FLYBOYJ

    FLYBOYJ "THE GREAT GAZOO"
    Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2005
    Messages:
    23,202
    Likes Received:
    786
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Aircraft Maintenance Manager/ Flight Instructor
    Location:
    Colorado, USA
    I do know of a guy who was an instructor in Iran when the Shaw fell from power. He and a USAF NCO stole an IRAF F-5B and flew it to Saudi Arabia. Someday I'll post his whole story here, I want to get his permission to use his real name.
     
  3. comiso90

    comiso90 Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2006
    Messages:
    3,672
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Occupation:
    Video and multi-media communications expert
    Location:
    FL
    Nice post.... we've seen it before in war movies. It's cool to read the real thing

    .
     
  4. A4K

    A4K Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2007
    Messages:
    12,162
    Likes Received:
    123
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    The back of beyond
    Agreed comiso! Great idea Smokey!
     
  5. Velius

    Velius Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2007
    Messages:
    263
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Occupation:
    "Mechanical installer" is my official title- a fancy way of saying that I work on A/C structures.
    Location:
    Central Texas
    I wonder what the L.W. pilot's thoghts were as he saw his plane fly away :lol:
     
  6. Mangrove

    Mangrove Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2004
    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    8
    I'm thinking this is a some kind of urban legend. First of all Kuznetsov was a Soviet IL-2 pilot. I assume the German pilot had turn the engine off so it would be quite an achievement him to turn on the engine without any knowledge from German language / fighter planes. Second the source is a 1960s era book. I haven't read the book myself but I doubt it's very faithful to real events.
     
  7. Kruska

    Kruska Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Yes indeed, I would analyse it in the same manner.

    Regards
    Kruska
     
  8. Krabat42

    Krabat42 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2006
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Occupation:
    Historian
    Location:
    Munich
    Why should he do that? IF you land your 109 away from your airfield, you probably want to start again quick, so you probably leave the engine running idle. The 109 must be started with a inertia starter, this is quite difficult without a second man.

    Mind you, I too think that many of these stories are legends, but if you want to dismiss them, it's not that easy.

    Krabat
     
  9. magnu

    magnu Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2007
    Messages:
    889
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Occupation:
    tattoo artist
    Location:
    Cornwall
    Not exactly stealing from the enemy but in Group captain Duncan Smiths' memoirs he tells of an engineer who, on discovering the airfield at the front line was critically short of planes due to serviceability, borrowed a spitfire and flew himself there to see if he could get some back in the air.
    Most remarkable of all was the fact that he had never flown before and took off flew there and made a very good landing using only a copy of the pilots handling notes
    He was later court martialed for the offense but was exhonerated
     
  10. wingnuts

    wingnuts Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2007
    Messages:
    115
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Occupation:
    Technical Officer - Aviation + Graphic Design
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
  11. Waynos

    Waynos Active Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2008
    Messages:
    1,309
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Not really the same thing at all I would imagine, but does anyone know how the RAF acquired a Yak 9?

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Smokey

    Smokey Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2004
    Messages:
    532
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    There's this post...

    By the way, I hope I'm not getting into any hot water by posting these unauthorized from somewhere, but I've had these three profiles of a Yak-9 during various periods in it's remarkable service life - from postwar VVS service as "White 27", then handed over to the Bulgarian air force and repainted by them as "White 39", then again repainted in Italy by the RAF and used as the personal aircraft of RAF Commander James A Storer (I believe that was his name?) after a Bulgarian pilot defected in it! Yes, there were actual photos to go with these profiles but unfortunately I lost them in a HD crash some time ago Sad My question is, is the aircraft in question a Yak-9D or Yak-9DD?

    From this forum

    ICM Yak-9DD
     
  13. Smokey

    Smokey Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2004
    Messages:
    532
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Someone else is guilty of Grand Theft Aircraft...

    Not long after scrambling into their dingy after the crash Ted and his crew where picked up by an Italian sea plane and made prisoners of war.
    It did not take them long to learn that they would be taken to Taranto in Italy where they would spend the rest of the war as prisoners.
    The thought of their approaching doom spurred them into taking action against their captors. With the watchful eyes of the guard on them and limited communication the worlds first skyjack swung into action.
    They started straight for the radio operator, clearly to make sure no contact was made to the base and successfully took him out. They then overpowered an unexpected guard and managed to get his weapon off him. The first part of their attack was successful but the turning point came when the co-pilot pulled a pistol on them. Luck was on their side however as it was one the Italian’s own comrades that knocked the weapon from his hands in the frantic struggle to regain control. It was after that bit of fortune in the frenzied chaos that they knew the plane was theirs, and Ted wasted no time in taking over the controls.
    New problems now became apparent. The first and more immediate issue was that they were fast running low on fuel. After asking the Italian Engineer kindly (at gunpoint) to switch to reserves and by changing their route, flying rather to their base at Malta instead of the African coast, this first problem was quickly taken care of. Next was the problem of flying an Italian plane. Ted’s experience was sufficient to fly an Italian plane but to the allies this was an enemy aircraft fast approaching the Malta coast. Soon there were spitfires gunning them down. Normally the sight of spitfires off the wing of his torpedo bomber would have been comforting, however this was clearly not a Bristol Beaufort bomber and with holes being shot in his tail this was definitely not comforting. Ted hurled the first pilot back into his seat and ordered him in hurried sign-language to land in the sea.
    One of the men then whipped off his shirt and took his vest — the only white article he had — and waved it out of the window making it clear that they had come to surrender — albeit to their own side!
    The first wave of spits managed to do fair damage to the plane but they landed safely and the worlds 1st skyjack was over.
    Astonished to see four RAF’s in the Italian plane a member of the launch team towing them back to St Paul’s Bay said “We thought it was old Mussolini coming to give himself up!”

    From


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OzoTZe_71c


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    La Seconda Guerra Mondiale - I Trimotori

    [​IMG]

    Comando Supremo: Photo Gallery

    Some shots of a CANT Z 506 in a museum:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    From this site

    Cant Z.506 "Airone" Walkaround - page 1
     
  14. Waynos

    Waynos Active Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2008
    Messages:
    1,309
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Thanks for that.
     
  15. Marcel

    Marcel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2006
    Messages:
    6,977
    Likes Received:
    570
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Bioinformatician
    Location:
    Dordrecht
Loading...

Share This Page