Greatest Fighter Aircraft of All Time

[102first_hussars]

Okay I saw this program on Discovery about the Top Ten Best fighter aircraft, I didnt fully agree with their results so I would like to see what you guys think.

 

[Dogwalker]

There isn't the Mig 25. My vote is for it.

DogW

 

[FLYBOYJ]

There isn't the Mig 25. My vote is for it.

DogW

Becuase it was junk!

 

[Nonskimmer]

Fast, high flying junk though.

But yeah, it was junky.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

We've discussed the Mig-25 before but it was a stroke of what I call "Primitive Genius." We all know how the Soviets used steel, radar and communications equipment with cathode tubes, no real egress system, etc. just to make the Mig-25 competitive. In return, when used with other air forces, it did terrible. I have the following numbers.

IRAN - IRAQ War
Mig-25 Confirmed Kills - 6
Unconfirmed - 3

Mig- 25 confirmed destroyed by the IIAF - 15

Gulf War 1, 3 Mig-25s killed by coalition forces

Middle East - 3 Mig-25s killed by the IAF

SO the Mig-25 as a fighter has a 3 to 10 kill ratio!

IIAF 2 times F-5s shot down Mig-25s! That's embarrising!!!

 

[Gnomey]

Well it originated in Russia so a 3:10 ratio is acceptable you just send up 4 times as many planes

And my vote goes to the F-86, it showed good service in Korea and onwards. Another thing where is the Lightning (EE not Lockheed)...

 

[Nonskimmer]

I think I remember that thread, Joe.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

Well it originated in Russia so a 3:10 ratio is acceptable you just send up 4 times as many planes

And my vote goes to the F-86, it showed good service in Korea and onwards.

Good Man!

 

[FLYBOYJ]

I think I remember that thread, Joe.

Yea, that was pretty funny! I wonder what ever happened to that guy!!

 

[102first_hussars]

Another thing where is the Lightning (EE not Lockheed)...

Its an excellent plane, but it didt have a major influence in the history of Dog Fighting.

 

[plan_D]

He suffocated while his head was stuck up a kangeroos' ass.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

He suffocated while his head was stuck up a kangeroos' ass.

 

[Gnomey]

He suffocated while his head was stuck up a kangeroos' ass.

How pleasant...

 

[102first_hussars]

Another thing where is the Lightning (EE not Lockheed)...

Its an excellent plane, but it didnt have a major influence in the history of Dog Fighting.

Excuse me I meant to say it was an excellent plane but it didnt have a major influence in the history of Dog Fighting so I didnt put it up there

 

[Dogwalker]

We've discussed the Mig-25 before

I love it, no reason.

DogW

 

[FLYBOYJ]

We've discussed the Mig-25 before

I love it, no reason.

DogW

No sweat!

 

[102first_hussars]

I guess the russians thought it was top of the line, ahead of its time, so much a pilot had to go rogue and take one to Japan, but like you said FBJ it was nothing but steel, Cathoder ehem I mean Cathode tubes, goes to show what Russias idea of high quality was then eh?

 

[FLYBOYJ]

I guess the russians thought it was top of the line, ahead of its time, so much a pilot had to go rogue and take one to Japan, but like you said FBJ it was nothing but steel, Cathoder ehem I mean Cathode tubes, goes to show what Russias idea of high quality was then eh?

Well it was designed for one thing, to intercept the B-70 which never materialized, but it was a formidable interceptor for straight on, one or two shots. It was crude and could be somewhat dangerous according to Victor Belinko, they guy who defected to Japan in 1976.

The SR-71 just danced around it when it tried to intercept the Blackbird, Belinko stated that it seemed the Blackbird was just taunting the Russians!

 

[evangilder]

One of the reason for using vacuum tubes in the Mig-25 is that they are not succeptible to EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse). Any fighter that is going after a nuclear bomber should have the least amount of succeptibility to EMP.

And for the record guys, Cathode Ray Tubes, or CRTs are still used even today. That is the screen for computers, TVs, radars and even American Fighters carried them for many years.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

One of the reason for using vacuum tubes in the Mig-25 is that they are not succeptible to EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse). Any fighter that is going after a nuclear bomber should have the least amount of succeptibility to EMP.

And for the record guys, Cathode Ray Tubes, or CRTs are still used even today. That is the screen for computers, TVs, radars and even American Fighters carried them for many years.

YEP!!!