102first_hussars
Tech Sergeant
Okay I saw this program on Discovery about the Top Ten Best fighter aircraft, I didnt fully agree with their results so I would like to see what you guys think.
Greatest Fighter Aircraft of All Time
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Dogwalker
Senior Airman
There isn't the Mig 25. My vote is for it.
DogW
DogW
FLYBOYJ
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Dogwalker said:
Becuase it was junk!
Nonskimmer
Captain
Fast, high flying junk though. 
But yeah, it was junky.
But yeah, it was junky.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
We've discussed the Mig-25 before but it was a stroke of what I call "Primitive Genius." We all know how the Soviets used steel, radar and communications equipment with cathode tubes, no real egress system, etc. just to make the Mig-25 competitive. In return, when used with other air forces, it did terrible. I have the following numbers.
IRAN - IRAQ War
Mig-25 Confirmed Kills - 6
Unconfirmed - 3
Mig- 25 confirmed destroyed by the IIAF - 15
Gulf War 1, 3 Mig-25s killed by coalition forces
Middle East - 3 Mig-25s killed by the IAF
SO the Mig-25 as a fighter has a 3 to 10 kill ratio!
IIAF 2 times F-5s shot down Mig-25s! That's embarrising!!!
IRAN - IRAQ War
Mig-25 Confirmed Kills - 6
Unconfirmed - 3
Mig- 25 confirmed destroyed by the IIAF - 15
Gulf War 1, 3 Mig-25s killed by coalition forces
Middle East - 3 Mig-25s killed by the IAF
SO the Mig-25 as a fighter has a 3 to 10 kill ratio!
IIAF 2 times F-5s shot down Mig-25s! That's embarrising!!!
Well it originated in Russia so a 3:10 ratio is acceptable you just send up 4 times as many planes
And my vote goes to the F-86, it showed good service in Korea and onwards. Another thing where is the Lightning (EE not Lockheed)...
And my vote goes to the F-86, it showed good service in Korea and onwards. Another thing where is the Lightning (EE not Lockheed)...
Nonskimmer
Captain
I think I remember that thread, Joe.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Gnomey said:Well it originated in Russia so a 3:10 ratio is acceptable you just send up 4 times as many planes
Gnomey said:
Good Man!
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Nonskimmer said:I think I remember that thread, Joe.
Yea, that was pretty funny! I wonder what ever happened to that guy!!
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102first_hussars
Tech Sergeant
Its an excellent plane, but it didt have a major influence in the history of Dog Fighting.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
plan_D said:
FLYBOYJ said:plan_D said:
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102first_hussars
Tech Sergeant
102first_hussars said:
Excuse me I meant to say it was an excellent plane but it didnt have a major influence in the history of Dog Fighting so I didnt put it up there
Dogwalker
Senior Airman
I love it, no reason.FLYBOYJ said:
DogW
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No sweat!Dogwalker said:
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102first_hussars
Tech Sergeant
I guess the russians thought it was top of the line, ahead of its time, so much a pilot had to go rogue and take one to Japan, but like you said FBJ it was nothing but steel, Cathoder ehem I mean Cathode tubes, goes to show what Russias idea of high quality was then eh?
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
102first_hussars said:
Well it was designed for one thing, to intercept the B-70 which never materialized, but it was a formidable interceptor for straight on, one or two shots. It was crude and could be somewhat dangerous according to Victor Belinko, they guy who defected to Japan in 1976.
The SR-71 just danced around it when it tried to intercept the Blackbird, Belinko stated that it seemed the Blackbird was just taunting the Russians!
evangilder
"Shooter"
One of the reason for using vacuum tubes in the Mig-25 is that they are not succeptible to EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse). Any fighter that is going after a nuclear bomber should have the least amount of succeptibility to EMP.
And for the record guys, Cathode Ray Tubes, or CRTs are still used even today. That is the screen for computers, TVs, radars and even American Fighters carried them for many years.
And for the record guys, Cathode Ray Tubes, or CRTs are still used even today. That is the screen for computers, TVs, radars and even American Fighters carried them for many years.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
evangilder said:
YEP!!!
