Gunman opens fire at school in Finland, 9 dead....!

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  1. Lucky13

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    By MATTI HUUHTANEN, Associated Press Writer
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    HELSINKI, Finland - A gunman opened fire at a vocational school for adults in western Finland on Tuesday before shooting himself, police said. Finnish media reported nine people were killed and the gunman was wounded.

    The shootings began just before 11 a.m. local time as about 150 students went to class in Kauhajoki, 180 miles northwest of Helsinki. Witnesses said panic broke out as the hooded gunman entered the school and began firing.

    "Within a short space of time I heard several dozen rounds of shots, in other words it was an automatic pistol," school janitor Jukka Forsberg told broadcaster YLE. "I saw some female students who were wailing and moaning and one managed to escape out of the back door."

    YLE, citing police at the school, reported nine people were killed. The Finnish news agency STT said the school building was on fire and the gunman reportedly had explosives on him.

    Jussi Muotio, superintendent of the Kauhajoki police, confirmed that several people had been wounded but could not immediately confirm the deaths. "The incident is over now," Muotio said.

    Vesa Nyrhinen, detective superintendent from the local police, declined to say how seriously the gunman was injured. "He was wounded by his own bullets," he said.

    College rector Timo Varmola told YLE there were 150 students in the school at the time.

    The shootings happened almost a year after another gunman killed eight people and himself at a school in southern Finland, an attack that triggered a fierce debate about gun laws in this Nordic nation with deep-rooted traditions of hunting in the sub-Arctic wilderness.

    With 1.6 million firearms in private hands, Finland is an anomaly in Europe, lagging behind only the United States and Yemen in civilian gun ownership, studies show.

    Finnish media said YouTube clips of a man firing a gun appeared to be linked to the shooting. In one of them, a young man wearing a leather jacket fires several shots in rapid succession with a handgun at what appears to be a shooting range.

    The posting was made five days before the shooting and the location was given as Kauhajoki. The posting included a message saying: "Whole life is war and whole life is pain. And you will fight alone in your personal war."

    The person who posted the clip identified himself as a 22-year-old with the name "Mr. Saari." He also posted three other clips of himself firing a handgun in the past three weeks.

    Clips from the 1999 Columbine school shootings in Colorado were listed among his favorite videos.

    Police could not immediately confirm whether the postings were linked to Tuesday's shooting.

    Last year, Pekka-Eric Auvinen, described by police as a bullied 18-year-old outcast, opened fire at his high school in southern Finland on Nov. 7. He killed six students, a school nurse and the principal before ending his own life with a gunshot to the head.

    Finnish investigators have said Auvinen left a suicide note for his family and foreshadowed his attack in YouTube postings.

    After Auvinen's rampage, the government said it would raise the minimum age for buying guns from 15 to 18, but insisted there was no need for sweeping changes to Finland's gun laws.
     
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    I was just reading this on CNN...very saddening. My heart goes out to the families. :(
     
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    Why can't crazy gunmen just shoot themselves. :(
     
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    Would make a lot of sense if that is what they did Thor. Shame to see it again, read on the news that he was arrested and the police had thought about revoking his gun licence last week. Now look what has happened :(
     
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    Sorry to hear this. My heart goes out to the families.
     
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    Evil is always with us, unfortunately. :(

    Stuff like this is hard to comprehend. Pray for the families.

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    Prayers sent for the families involved. Another disturbed young person. Obviously does not get the attention he craved from family or peers so has to resort to getting it by doing a despicable act against innocent people.
     
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    If theres any justice in this world or the netherworld, he's having red hot pokers shoved up his ass 3 times daily....
     
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    Leave it to Les to find a fitting tribute to the guy. :lol: Couldn't agree more, though! My thoughts and prayers go out to the families. More folks need to be armed, though...probably coulda stopped the arsewipe after one or two shots instead of a dozen or so.
     
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    Let there be no mistaking. There are those with mental problems and then there are those that are just plain evil.

    I have never understood the insanity plea. You murder somebody? Ofcourse your insane. Your a friggin' evil monster for Godsake!
     
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    Insanity is no excuse for mass Murder in my opinion. This guy knew exactly what he was doing so insanity is out the door anyway. 3 hot poker rectal exams a day aren't enough for this beast, but it's a good start!!!
     
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    wonder if anyone has thought to get to the root of the prob ?

    ~ most likely not in this selfish world, the parents of both this poor child and Peekas need to be interviewed at length, 10 to 1 you would find this all stemmed from the child's and parents/grand-parents past on how they were brought up in their familie history. Guys/Gals it's be proven over and over again, have seen it myself and it's ugly. Saddened as I am over this recent event we know it is going to happen again. ~
     
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