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I've read that the FAA was woefully undersized in Sept 1939. But how big was it, and how big did it need to be?
HMS Ark Royal needs 60 aircraft, each of the three Courageous class needs 48 aircraft, Eagle ~28 aircraft, Hermes and Argus each ~16. On top of this you need be training new personnel and procuring aircraft for the four Illustrious class that have been building since 1937 and very soon to enter service, so an additional 192 aircraft (~48x4). That's a total of 456 front line aircraft (38 squadrons). Add 50% that to a total FAA of about 684 aircraft to cover operational losses, spares, maintenance and training, with a total of perhaps 1,500 aircrew (pilots and observers/air gunner) deployed or in training, service ashore and leave. That's hardly a huge outlay for the Air Ministry and Exchequer, but was the actual FAA a lot smaller than this?
Of course the peacetime RN often deploys ships capable of, but not fitted (what's the official term for that, fitted for, but not with?) with combat systems. Look at today's Queen Elizabeth class carriers, sure they're in commission and sailing around, but without any fixed wing combat aircraft. In many ways the interwar carrier borne FAA looks like the IJNAF, with little planning or capability in place to rapidly scale up pilot and aircraft procurement to cover wartime losses.
Jeez. Of course the cameraman can't be everywhere, but I don't think I've ever seen a photo of Skua on a carrier that wasn't HMS Ark Royal. To have the world's first all-metal, folding wing, monoplane, retractable undercarriage dive bomber, and then leave it on land or at the depot makes no sense.To give you an example. The Blackburn Skua the maximum number of Skuas operational at any one time was 33. Yes thirty three aircraft and most of them were land based.
To have the world's first all-metal, folding wing, monoplane, retractable undercarriage dive bomber, and then leave it on land or at the depot makes no sense.
Wikipedia says that in 1941 the Skuas were used for training and target tugs. This seems a waste to me when carriers like HMS Hermes have nothing but a dozen Swordfish, and Malaya needs aircraft. Clearly the FAA thought they had sufficient aircraft to leave the Skua at the RNAS.From June 40 till late in the the year 2 squadrons of Skuas were attacking the coast of France and Belgium. They were withdrawn and the squadrons re-equipped with Fulmars. A FAA squadron was usually 10 aircraft at this time.
I see your point. The only position I may question is the Skua's 2nd rate status in Malaya. As you wrote, sufficient air cover is a must, but a modern dive bomber would be useful for CAS and anti shipping.Mayla was under defended, in part by obsolete or 2nd rate aircraft with inadequately trained aircrew and ground crew (who often did perform well in some instances), however shoving more obsolete or 2nd rate aircraft into Mayla without adequate support/preparation wasn't going to change the situation much.
The only position I may question is the Skua's 2nd rate status in Malaya.
Fair enough....anything the FAA could ill afford to bring there (Fulmars), so a barely 225 mph plane could make to much difference.
Not when Ki 27 top speed is 277 mph and Ki 43 330mphFair enough.
It would be interesting to see the growth in the FAA from 1939 to 1945. I imagine there's more than 250 front line FAA aircraft in the five Illustrious/Implacable class and HMS Unicorn shown below in April 1945 during the Okinawa Campaign.Less than 250 'front line' aircraft in a nominal 20 squadrons.
Jeez. Of course the cameraman can't be everywhere, but I don't think I've ever seen a photo of Skua on a carrier that wasn't HMS Ark Royal. To have the world's first all-metal, folding wing, monoplane, retractable undercarriage dive bomber, and then leave it on land or at the depot makes no sense.
Neither Buffaloes or Hurricanes were capable of holding their owns, much less anything the FAA could ill afford to bring there (Fulmars), so a barely 225 mph plane could make to much difference.
As a dive bomber, the Skua (and Roc) would have wreaked havoc amongst IJN shipping and smaller naval vessels. The Skua and Roc's maximum speed is achieved down low and so the speed differences between it and the older IJA/IJN fighters was less than it seems.
As a dive bomber, the Skua (and Roc) would have wreaked havoc amongst IJN shipping and smaller naval vessels. The Skua and Roc's maximum speed is achieved down low and so the speed differences between it and the older IJA/IJN fighters was less than it seems.
One thing the Skua offers is that it's the only monoplane aircaft in the FAA that can fit down Hermes' lifts. Hurricanes and non-folding Martlets are too wide, Fulmars too long; so it's Skuas, Gladiators, Swordfish or Albacores. The Buffalo would also fit, but the FAA doesn't have any. So without a crash barrier to facilitate deck parking of Hurricanes, if Hermes is to have any "fast" strike and fleet air defence capacity it has to be Skuas.Certainly the Skua the could have made quite a work of the japanese landing barges in SEA... if it could get through the fighter screen, in and out, otherwise they would became one shot guns, if they could got to the landing places.