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Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Saw a post at FaceBook from the movie: "Saving Private Ryan"
It displayed a scene from the latter part of the movie where P-51Ds attack the advancing German armor, as they were crossing the bridge:
The caption was:
Private Ryan: "They're tank-busters, sir. P-51s."
Captain Miller: "Angels on our shoulders."
And here's where the fun begins...I read the comments. Why oh why did I read the comments?
I know better than to do that, but I did...
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Bryan If I remember correctly, the P-51 was originally designed as a dive-bomber. But when it was found to suck at such a role, it was re-tooled as an interceptor
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Curt I think he means the engine. The British designed the motor for that role, and it was not dependable. Rolls-Royce actually developed the motor. I forget who bought it here in America, IH, maybe. I forget. They are the ones who took the motor and developed the plane around the motor. That is why the A model looks nothing like the D model, except chassis wise.
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Tommy Incorrect. I believe from 1943 and onward we used F-16's and F22 raptors.
Mark ?
Ibrahim f16 from 1943? wtf man? they were used in the 1970's for the first time
Arnold ur lost dude!!! f16 was developed in the 1970's and fielded in the 1980s
Kevin I can't believe you actually said the US used f16s in 1943...Looool
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Joshua P-51D, an american failure fixed by the RAF
David (I had to reply) Joshua, the NA-73X was designed and built according to specifications from the British and first put into combat by the RAF...how was it an American failure?
The only American failure was not putting it into USAAF serice sooner...
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Shadrach Actually p51s enjoyed a universal role both as a dog fighter and ground strafer. And to be even more historically correct ground strafing was the main role of the p38 lightning and it's English variant the mosquito. Regardless it's a movie
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Moe I think they're Red Tails!
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Matt Sorry- P51s were not designed for ground support anti-tank use- the A36 Apache was similar to the P51 design, and was designed for low altitude ground support, but it carried 4 x .50 cal machine guns and bombs, not a cannon with armor peircing shells. The P47 was adapted later in WW2 for tank busting, using a 37 mm fuselage mounted canon. Very inaccurate and the recoil was a big problem.
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Daniel Ya. They found out in Nam 51's were to vulnerable to ground fire for ground support role. Still, fastest prop fighter ever!
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Nate P-51s were hardly ever used as ground attack aircraft, perhaps never. I also find it funny that the planes in the film were not even fitted with bomb racks. Haha.
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Ben On D.DAY British polish chech Indian candian not just America as to me the film portrays good tho
Chris so they make a movie about americans looking for other americans and they have to add other military in there to make you feel better?? smh
Ben Stuff it.Whining Yank
Toma these american was not there you are being lied to . history is changed to lie for america .
Ian What???
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Craig P-51 "Tank Busters" were not a thing...
Will well i have to tell you, youre totally wrong... the 51's p and f's were outfitted with bombs, and had alot of secondary uses other than escorts and fighters. they had a bigger fuel load than most fighters then, and could carry out longer and more covert missions.
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Andrew If they were tank busters they would have been a-36 apaches
Will nope. f and p 51's were outfitted with bombs, and could easily have ran those missions.
Andrew Yes I know that but if they were dedicated "tank busters" - a-36!
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Luis Pound for pound it's the best fighter ever to fly.
The German Focke-Wulf Fw-190D series came close to matching it but it came too late in the war, very few were built, and most of their great pilots were gone by then.
P-51 Mustang Rocks!
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Of course, I've only posted the best, most informative parts and left out comments about other movies and such comments as "stukas would have done a better job", etc...
It displayed a scene from the latter part of the movie where P-51Ds attack the advancing German armor, as they were crossing the bridge:
The caption was:
Private Ryan: "They're tank-busters, sir. P-51s."
Captain Miller: "Angels on our shoulders."
And here's where the fun begins...I read the comments. Why oh why did I read the comments?
I know better than to do that, but I did...
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Bryan If I remember correctly, the P-51 was originally designed as a dive-bomber. But when it was found to suck at such a role, it was re-tooled as an interceptor
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Curt I think he means the engine. The British designed the motor for that role, and it was not dependable. Rolls-Royce actually developed the motor. I forget who bought it here in America, IH, maybe. I forget. They are the ones who took the motor and developed the plane around the motor. That is why the A model looks nothing like the D model, except chassis wise.
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Tommy Incorrect. I believe from 1943 and onward we used F-16's and F22 raptors.
Mark ?
Ibrahim f16 from 1943? wtf man? they were used in the 1970's for the first time
Arnold ur lost dude!!! f16 was developed in the 1970's and fielded in the 1980s
Kevin I can't believe you actually said the US used f16s in 1943...Looool
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Joshua P-51D, an american failure fixed by the RAF
David (I had to reply) Joshua, the NA-73X was designed and built according to specifications from the British and first put into combat by the RAF...how was it an American failure?
The only American failure was not putting it into USAAF serice sooner...
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Shadrach Actually p51s enjoyed a universal role both as a dog fighter and ground strafer. And to be even more historically correct ground strafing was the main role of the p38 lightning and it's English variant the mosquito. Regardless it's a movie
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Moe I think they're Red Tails!
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Matt Sorry- P51s were not designed for ground support anti-tank use- the A36 Apache was similar to the P51 design, and was designed for low altitude ground support, but it carried 4 x .50 cal machine guns and bombs, not a cannon with armor peircing shells. The P47 was adapted later in WW2 for tank busting, using a 37 mm fuselage mounted canon. Very inaccurate and the recoil was a big problem.
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Daniel Ya. They found out in Nam 51's were to vulnerable to ground fire for ground support role. Still, fastest prop fighter ever!
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Nate P-51s were hardly ever used as ground attack aircraft, perhaps never. I also find it funny that the planes in the film were not even fitted with bomb racks. Haha.
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Ben On D.DAY British polish chech Indian candian not just America as to me the film portrays good tho
Chris so they make a movie about americans looking for other americans and they have to add other military in there to make you feel better?? smh
Ben Stuff it.Whining Yank
Toma these american was not there you are being lied to . history is changed to lie for america .
Ian What???
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Craig P-51 "Tank Busters" were not a thing...
Will well i have to tell you, youre totally wrong... the 51's p and f's were outfitted with bombs, and had alot of secondary uses other than escorts and fighters. they had a bigger fuel load than most fighters then, and could carry out longer and more covert missions.
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Andrew If they were tank busters they would have been a-36 apaches
Will nope. f and p 51's were outfitted with bombs, and could easily have ran those missions.
Andrew Yes I know that but if they were dedicated "tank busters" - a-36!
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Luis Pound for pound it's the best fighter ever to fly.
The German Focke-Wulf Fw-190D series came close to matching it but it came too late in the war, very few were built, and most of their great pilots were gone by then.
P-51 Mustang Rocks!
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Of course, I've only posted the best, most informative parts and left out comments about other movies and such comments as "stukas would have done a better job", etc...
