IAR.80C vs D.520C

Discussion in 'Polls' started by Colin1, Jul 29, 2009.

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Two early-war hopefuls pitched against one another

  1. IAR.80C

    29 vote(s)
    54.7%
  2. Dewoitine D.520C

    24 vote(s)
    45.3%
  1. Colin1

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    IAR.80C :Name: Dewoitine D.520C
    30ft 3in (9.22m) :Length: 28ft 3in (8.6m)
    29ft 10in (9.09m) :Wingspan: 33ft 6in (10.2m)
    12ft 6in (3.82m) :Height: 8ft 5in (2.57m)
    1 :Crew: 1

    4,850lbs (2,200Kgs) :Empty weight: 4,489lbs (2,036Kgs)
    6,570lbs (2,980Kgs) :Loaded weight: 6,129lbs (2,780Kgs)

    1 x IAR K14-1000A radial 1,025hp (764kW) :powerplant: 1 x Hispano-Suiza 12Y-45 inline 930hp (690kW)
    2 x 20mm MG151; 4 x 7.92mm FN mg :Armament: 1 x 20mm Hispano-Suiza HS.404; 4 x 7.5mm MAC 1934 mg

    342mph (550kph) :Max speed: 332mph (535kph)
    2,504ft/min (763m/min) :Rate of climb: 2,820ft/min (860m/min)
    454 miles (730 Kms) :Range: 777 miles (1,250 Kms)
    31,200ft (9,500m) :Service ceiling: 33,000ft (10,000m)

    27.1lb/sq ft (132.35Kg/sq m) :Wing loading: 34.2lb/sq ft (167Kg/sq m)
    183sq ft (17sq m) :Wing area: 172sq ft (15.97sq m)
    0.136hp/lb (224W/Kg) :power/mass: 0.156hp/lb (257W/Kg)
     

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    Ok I think I have the poll made Colin, check it out and see if it works for you
     
  3. Colin1

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    The duplicate thread's gone too - thanks Paul
     
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    Actually I think Joe got rid of the duplicate :lol:
     
  5. Colin1

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    lol whoever - thanks :)
     
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    Dewoitine D.520C for me because it was almost as good as the ME-109 and it was the best French Fighter.:) P.S I also like the way the Dewoitine D.520C looks.
     
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    imho 550 km/h was not actual speed of IAR 80C. the wing load for IAR is for near empty load, i've some doubt also for power/mass data.
    so w/o chek data i think best fighters vs fighters dewoitine (it's also a older model of IAR), for ground attack i think best IAR
     
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    I'll got for the IAR because of the radial engine vs water cooled and larger fiew power.

    I do find it interesting that Romania also used the D 520.
     
  9. Colin1

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    Sorry Vincenzo
    but do you have any sources to corroborate this? Something other than 'in your opinion' or some 'doubts'.
    I was pretty damn careful in putting the spec face-off together
     
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    #10 Vincenzo, Jul 30, 2009
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2009
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    Google? You might want to raise your bar slightly, Romania took delivery of around 100 D.520s
     
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    I believe both aircraft are pretty evenly matched. Both having advantages over the other.

    I find it hard to choose (also in part to me honestly not really knowing much about these two aircraft), but I think I will have to go with the IAR.80 because of its radial engine (and an illogical dislike for the D.520 :lol:).
     
  13. Vincenzo

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    #13 Vincenzo, Jul 30, 2009
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    need not stop a first results

    EDIT sorry i confuse it with MB 151

    2nd EDIT i've confuse but also dewoitine was not in service in romania
     
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    after my unfortunate experiences with french cars Im going to vote for the IAR 80...if the French build aircraft like they built my old Peugot, not wonder they lost
     
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    My friend says the same thing about his as well! :lol:
     
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    To my knowledge Romania didn't use D.520, but Bulgaria did.
     

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    Good match up.

    I'd take the D.520. Lighter wing loading for the IAR.80C but better power loading for the D.520 due to a lighter airframe. I like the IAR.80C armament. I'd bet the D.520 could accelerate better and it has a higher climb rate, range and service ceiling. Both are very cool looking aircraft.
     
  18. Colin1

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    I am aware of an article
    (and am currently trying to find the source) that the Romanians used at least one squadron on the Eastern Front
     
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    Romania was supposed to receive some D.520s that the Germans captured, but they never received them. I believe Bulgaria received 120 and Italy received 50 to 60 of them. All together Germany captured about 250 D.520s and another 60 or so were built under German occupation.
     
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    unlucky there are many false info around the net, and not only, on planes, and on all, specifically on not anglosaxones planes
     
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