IAR.80C vs D.520C

Colin1 · Jul 29, 2009

IAR.80C :Name: Dewoitine D.520C
30ft 3in (9.22m) :Length: 28ft 3in (8.6m)
29ft 10in (9.09m) :Wingspan: 33ft 6in (10.2m)
12ft 6in (3.82m) :Height: 8ft 5in (2.57m)
1 :Crew: 1

4,850lbs (2,200Kgs) :Empty weight: 4,489lbs (2,036Kgs)
6,570lbs (2,980Kgs) :Loaded weight: 6,129lbs (2,780Kgs)

1 x IAR K14-1000A radial 1,025hp (764kW) owerplant: 1 x Hispano-Suiza 12Y-45 inline 930hp (690kW)
2 x 20mm MG151; 4 x 7.92mm FN mg :Armament: 1 x 20mm Hispano-Suiza HS.404; 4 x 7.5mm MAC 1934 mg

342mph (550kph) :Max speed: 332mph (535kph)
2,504ft/min (763m/min) :Rate of climb: 2,820ft/min (860m/min)
454 miles (730 Kms) :Range: 777 miles (1,250 Kms)
31,200ft (9,500m) :Service ceiling: 33,000ft (10,000m)

27.1lb/sq ft (132.35Kg/sq m) :Wing loading: 34.2lb/sq ft (167Kg/sq m)
183sq ft (17sq m) :Wing area: 172sq ft (15.97sq m)
0.136hp/lb (224W/Kg) ower/mass: 0.156hp/lb (257W/Kg)

Micdrow · Jul 29, 2009

Ok I think I have the poll made Colin, check it out and see if it works for you

Colin1 · Jul 29, 2009

The duplicate thread's gone too - thanks Paul

Micdrow · Jul 29, 2009

Colin1 said:
The duplicate thread's gone too - thanks Paul

Actually I think Joe got rid of the duplicate

Colin1 · Jul 29, 2009

Micdrow said:
Actually I think Joe got rid of the duplicate

lol whoever - thanks

Doughboy · Jul 29, 2009

Dewoitine D.520C for me because it was almost as good as the ME-109 and it was the best French Fighter. P.S I also like the way the Dewoitine D.520C looks.

Vincenzo · Jul 29, 2009

imho 550 km/h was not actual speed of IAR 80C. the wing load for IAR is for near empty load, i've some doubt also for power/mass data.
so w/o chek data i think best fighters vs fighters dewoitine (it's also a older model of IAR), for ground attack i think best IAR

vikingBerserker · Jul 29, 2009

I'll got for the IAR because of the radial engine vs water cooled and larger fiew power.

I do find it interesting that Romania also used the D 520.

Colin1 · Jul 30, 2009

Vincenzo said:
imho 550 km/h was not actual speed of IAR 80C. the wing load for IAR is for near empty load, i've some doubt also for power/mass data.
so w/o chek data i think best fighters vs fighters dewoitine (it's also a older model of IAR), for ground attack i think best IAR

Sorry Vincenzo
but do you have any sources to corroborate this? Something other than 'in your opinion' or some 'doubts'.
I was pretty damn careful in putting the spec face-off together

Vincenzo · Jul 30, 2009

Romania don't used Dewoitine.
My source came on looking with google everyone can works

http://www.aspera.ro/dl/benczeandreiiar80.pdf
http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum good place for research on romanian in ww 2
http://webspace.webring.com/people/ks/strezahuzum/IAR-80.htm

Colin1 · Jul 30, 2009

Vincenzo said:
Romania don't used Dewoitine.
My source came on looking with google everyone can works

Google? You might want to raise your bar slightly, Romania took delivery of around 100 D.520s

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jul 30, 2009

I believe both aircraft are pretty evenly matched. Both having advantages over the other.

I find it hard to choose (also in part to me honestly not really knowing much about these two aircraft), but I think I will have to go with the IAR.80 because of its radial engine (and an illogical dislike for the D.520 ).

Vincenzo · Jul 30, 2009

Colin1 said:
Google? You might want to raise your bar slightly, Romania took delivery of around 100 D.520s

need not stop a first results

EDIT sorry i confuse it with MB 151

2nd EDIT i've confuse but also dewoitine was not in service in romania

parsifal · Jul 30, 2009

after my unfortunate experiences with french cars Im going to vote for the IAR 80...if the French build aircraft like they built my old Peugot, not wonder they lost

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jul 30, 2009

parsifal said:
after my unfortunate experiences with french cars Im going to vote for the IAR 80...if the French build aircraft like they built my old Peugot, not wonder they lost

My friend says the same thing about his as well!

imalko · Jul 30, 2009

Colin1 said:
.... Romania took delivery of around 100 D.520s

To my knowledge Romania didn't use D.520, but Bulgaria did.

FLYBOYJ · Jul 30, 2009

Good match up.

I'd take the D.520. Lighter wing loading for the IAR.80C but better power loading for the D.520 due to a lighter airframe. I like the IAR.80C armament. I'd bet the D.520 could accelerate better and it has a higher climb rate, range and service ceiling. Both are very cool looking aircraft.

Colin1 · Jul 30, 2009

imalko said:
To my knowledge Romania didn't use D.520, but Bulgaria did.

I am aware of an article
(and am currently trying to find the source) that the Romanians used at least one squadron on the Eastern Front

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jul 30, 2009

imalko said:
To my knowledge Romania didn't use D.520, but Bulgaria did.

Romania was supposed to receive some D.520s that the Germans captured, but they never received them. I believe Bulgaria received 120 and Italy received 50 to 60 of them. All together Germany captured about 250 D.520s and another 60 or so were built under German occupation.

Vincenzo · Jul 30, 2009

unlucky there are many false info around the net, and not only, on planes, and on all, specifically on not anglosaxones planes

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