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  1. gekho

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    Can anyone help me to identify this aircraft? the only thing I can tell you is that is french and the picture was taken around 1940. a DC-2 perhaps? or a Breguet 470 Fulgur?
     

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    Sure looks like a DC-2 to me
     
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    Definitely a DC-2 or one of its family. You can tell the difference from the DC-3 by the straight sides. The DC-3 fuselage had a more round section. I took the picture below at the air force museum in Dayton Ohio about 10 years ago. If I remember right the sign said it was a hybrid with the fuselage of a DC-2 and wings of a DC-3
     

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    Your photo is a C-33, basically a DC-2 with a DC-3 tail plane. The fuselages are the same forward of the empennage and if I remember correctly both aircraft were built off the same original production tooling. The Republican AF operated 4 or 5 DC-2s and I would guess they might have been delivered through France. Additionally the loop antenna and radio masts are also a give away - I think KLM operated DC-2s with the same equipment.
     
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    That sounds right. I took the picture ten years ago and the sign probably said DC-3 tail instead of wings.
     
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    Thanks. I had no idea France used C-33s.
     
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    Actually I believe your photo is a DC-2 that was being delivered to Spain. I was talking about T Bolt's photo.
     
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    Actually the plane in the 1st picture is a Marcel Bloch MB 220, not a DC anything...
     
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    It could be......
     

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    And waht about these? The first one seems to be a japanese floatplane captured by the americans, and the second one.... a captured Blohm Voss?? It´s not a Coronado and neither a Mariner.
     

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    the last one looks like a Short Sunderland
     
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    The first one is a Aichi E16A1 Zuiun ("Paul") and the second one is a british Short Flying boat of some sort...
     
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    #13 FLYBOYJ, May 6, 2010
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    Actually I would say that's it. Look at the exhaust stack behind the engine cowl. The DC-2 didn't have that.

    Its a Bloch MB 220
     
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    ...a british Short S23 'C' Class or 'Empire' Flying Boat to be exact.
     
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    thats the one, been niggling me what it was i was very unsure about it being a sunderland but could not remember the real type
     
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    I agree. I had never seen a MB 220 before. It sure looked like a DC-2 from that angle though.
     
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    Yes, the first aircraft is the Bloch. The lower wing, engine cowling shape, what's visible of the undercarriage, and the cabin windows are the indicators.
    The flying boat is definitley a Sort S23 'Empire' class, operated by B.O.A.C., a design which was used for the development of the Sunderland.
     
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    Personnel of GC III/6 ready to move to a new base in Bloch 220 mobilised from Air France.
     
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    I am a little bit confuse about this Beaufort...what country does it belong? is it portuguese or turkish? At the bottonm of the picture many british aircrafts can be seen, so I dont know waht to think....
     

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