In just two years.......

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  1. Thorlifter

    Thorlifter Well-Known Member

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    Part 1

    In just two years . Remember the election in 2006?

    Thought you might like to read the following:

    A little over one year ago:

    1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;

    2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;

    3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.


    Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:


    1) Consumer confidence plummet;

    2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;

    3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);

    4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);

    5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;

    6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

    America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

    Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.

    Quote of the Day........"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama


    Part 2:

    Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.

    The Tax Foundation - U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1913-2008

    Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2008

    Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500

    Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500

    Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750

    Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000

    Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750

    Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250

    Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates

    It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.


    PART 3:

    You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much?

    Read this:

    Boy am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.

    I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

    I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.

    Verify at: FAIR: Immigration and Welfare

    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school
    education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

    Verify at CNN.com - Transcripts

    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

    Verify at: CNN.com - Transcripts

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

    Verify at: CNN.com - Transcripts

    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare social services by the American taxpayers.

    Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

    Verify at: CNN.com - Transcripts

    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US

    Verify at: CNN.com - Transcripts

    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

    Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

    12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."

    Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.

    Verify at: Wooldridge - How Much Further Into This Nightmare?

    14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ."

    Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

    The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
     
  2. Njaco

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    #3 I saw before and can't remember if I posted also.

    Freakin' great points. Here in NJ taxes are getting to be a mess. The governor wants to take away services - like the Dept of Agriculture (why is it the 'Garden State'?) and raise highway tolls and....tax, tax, tax!

    Its a sick joke that democrats keep playing on us over and over and over....
     
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    Interesting Thor, and not a good situation...

    One thing I would say though regards the drug comment in part 3 - if there wasn't the demand for them, there wouldn't be any importation. You can't pin that one on the foreigners alone.
     
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    Good data Thor. The problem I have with your analysis is that BOTH the mis-managed war and the illegals are a drain on the USA.

    The was has cost probably 10x the $$$$ and # of lives lost due to poor {or absent} planning for the occupation and the "nation building" experiment in Iraq.

    The illegal alien situation in the USA is OUT OF CONTROL especially in YOUR STATE. {crying shame} :cry:

    Many democrats are in favour of "amnesty" but so were both McCain AND BUSH! :evil:

    There are laws on the books now that allow deportation of illegals.

    This is done by the border patrol/INS which are controlled BY THE PRESIDENT {executive branch}. The congress has also passed authorization to build 600+ miles of fence AND IT STILL HAS NOT BEEN BUILT. :confused:

    The president with the authorization HE ALREADY HAS should have

    BUILT THE FENCE

    DEPORT THE ILLEGAL MIGRANTS :mad:


    Please eveyone do not misunderstand this, I don't think Obama or Hill/Bill will do any good, but the current President HAS NOT DONE THE JOB EITHER!
     
  5. Thorlifter

    Thorlifter Well-Known Member

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    Both Freebird and A4K have good points as well. I have a buddy of mine that is a die hard republican. He scraped the W window sticker off his truck because he is so mad at Bush.

    Had a co-worker tell me, "Well, there isn't an easy answer."

    I said, "Like hell. Obey the law, enforce the law. It may not be the 100% best answer, but that's the answer we have now, it's in the books, enforce the damn thing."
     
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    I was going to type a response, but got too PO'ed and it would just be an unending paragraph of expletives!!!!
     
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  8. Thorlifter

    Thorlifter Well-Known Member

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    I know, Buck. Just stomp your foot and have a piece of cake. It will be ok.
     
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