Jeep or Kubelwagen, Kubelwagen or Jeep?

[schwarzpanzer]

I tried to put this on POLLS Mr NS, but couldn't so feel free to delete, er move this if you wish.

Which would you have?

BTW The Hotchkiss Jeeps were the best.

 

[Nonskimmer]

I'm trying to abstain from thread deletion for a while.
Nah, it's fine right here.

 

[Gnomey]

I would say the jeep over the kubelwagen as the jeep had better offroad capability than the kubelwagen, as well as being good on the road.

 

[trackend]

Jeep by a mile but the 15cwt over the jeep

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Id go with the Jeep. Mostly because I love the name Jeep and am a Jeep driver.

 

[evangilder]

Little known fact:
The term Jeep is actually a slurring of the acronym "GP". These vehicles were called "General Purpose" or GP. That got slurred into "Jeep" and the moniker stuck.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

That I did not know. Jeep "There is Only ONe"

 

[trackend]

I think you right Adler the Kubel just was not as robust as the Willys
Isnt there a connection with a cartoon character around the time Eric that was called the Jeep and that was why the spelling was used to discribe the GP

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Yeap I agree.

 

[plan_D]

I knew about that about the name. Jeep coming from GP. I read it recently.

 

[evangilder]

I actually saw a documentary on the Jeep in WWII a number of years ago and leared about that. I thought it was a cool piece of trivia.

 

[trackend]

I spoke to a guy at Duxford on sunday and he was the owner of a 1942 Willys Jeep with all the Kit including this very rare Winchester made M20 carbine

 

[Nonskimmer]

Very nice! It certainly looks well maintained.

 

[trackend]

He has just come back from the states and had an hours flight in a B24
up in the bombardiers position and a quick trip in a B17 he was still grinning at the thought of it

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Yes very nice!

 

[schwarzpanzer]

I know some guys who work for Chrysler and they said the GP is wrong, that the original order was for a vehicle with Just Enough Essential Parts.

I think that an existing Willys was just adapted.

There was one there in a bay, he'd restored it along with a Duck-type thing.

My grandad fitted a half-track engine to a Jeep at Hereford (IIRC?) and had it on 2 wheels!

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

As a Jeep man I would love to own an original Willys Jeep.

 

[cheddar cheese]

I know some guys who own a Willys...its terrific...

 

[evangilder]

That Chrysler story about just enough essential parts sounds like an acronym that was made later. Chrysler did not build Jeeps during that time. The first jeeps were made by Willys-Overland, Ford and American Bantam.

Chrysler bought American Motors in 1987, who had bought out Kaiser in 1970. Kaiser bought Willys in 1953 and it became Kaiser-Jeep in 1963. The origin of the Jeep name and the trademark came from the original Willys company.

As an aside, teh Ford Motor Company produced GP vehicles and their documents state that G stood for Government Use. The P signified the wheelbase of the vehicle, in this case, 80 inches.

I have seen no documents that show the acronym JEEP.

 

[wmaxt]

I Owned a 1948 Willy's mine was a CJ2A It didn't have the shovels and it did have a tail gate it was a blast and I wish I could get it back.

The Kubelwagon was actually no slouch and could go pretty much anywhere you had the guts to go. long climbs and mud was the Jeeps forte and best feature.

I vote Jeep to.

wmaxt