Luftwaffe Aircraft Wheel

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  1. HubertK

    HubertK New Member

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    Hello,
    I'm writing from Poland. My uncle have found German wheel with Dunlop tire on scrapjard. The size of tire is 770x270. I have been looking for any information about this wheel, but I found only the ME262 prototypes :crazy:. Some say it can be He 219 front wheel, Ghota Go 242 or Siebel Si 204 main wheels. Maybe you can help us to identify this wheel ;) Below I attach some photos. Sorry for my english :oops:

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    I don't think it is a German WW2 era tyre. Especially it's the Dunlop one. It's more likely it's a post-war wheel.
     
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    Deutsche Dunlop Gummi-Compagnie AG, Reifen, Gummilaufrollen, Hanau/Main [H]. Hersteller = mwu.
     
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    Yes, but with 'Made in Germany' and Fabrique en Allemagne' on it? I've seen a Dunlop tail wheel tyre from a Bf 110 and I'm sure it had neither, I will try to find the photographs I took of it.
    I don't think that is a wartime or Third Reich era tyre.
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    I agree with Steve, Because of the 'Made in Germany' and Fabrique en Allemagne' I doubt it is the WW2 tyre.
     
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    The 'Made in Germany' mark predates WW2 by some margin, I just find it difficult to understand why the Nazi government would use it given its history. Its presence certainly isn't conclusive proof either way, but for me it seems unlikely. I will have a look at other wartime German tyres when I have a chance.
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    I understand your point of view Steve. But I doubt the German factories put the "Made in" in three languages on their tyres while the war was lasting.
     
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    I agree. I will have a look to see if there was anything like it on other tyres, but it seems unlikely and very 'un-Nazi'.

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    I checked on that a little bit and it appears that it may be true. The Dunlop had a big factory in Germany. Here I found a site with Bf 110E crash site. There were found the remnants of the Dunlop and Continental tyres used with the kite...

    Me 110 Sivertsfjell

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    Thank you for interest :)
    Here is another Me110 with Dunlop "made in germany" tire:
    Focke Wulf 190 D-9 (Dora)

    I have found an information, that Hs 129 had also 770x270 size, and at the end of the war, germans had few of them in western Poland, around the Wroclaw.
     
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    A Bf 110G but not the Fw 190D-9 as the link title suggests.
     
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    hmmm I wonder if Dunlop got the continued to receive the royalties from the germans during the war....har har
     
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    Ar 234V 770x270 noseweel
    Ar 234C 770x270 noseweel
    Focke-Achgelis Fa 233 770x270 mainwheel
    Fw 189 770x270 mainwheel
    Heinkel 219 770x270 noseweel
    Hs 129 770x270 mainwheel
    Hütter HU 211 770x270 noseweel
    Me 262 V1 -V4 770x270 mainwheel
    Me 262 770x270 mainwheel (oraz 840x300)
    Me 263 770x270 mainwheel
    Si 204A 770x270 mainwheel
     
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    Magic info Woodhaven. Your library must be wonderous to provide such information. I am most definitely jealous.

    Given that the aircraft you list have somewhat different weights and performance I would suspect that some of those tyres/tires have quite a few more plys than others.

    Do you know the ply rating of those tyres/tires and how the Germans identified the ply ratings as that may assist HerbertK?

    Mi
     
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    Many thanks for that list :)

    Cheers
    Hubert
     
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