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As opposed to an Me262 with jet engines?My another favourite is a Me-262 with prop engines; perhaps with the DB-603 we've just saved from 210-410 seriesFour 30mm cannons flying at 500mph anyone?
double post???And speaking of heavy, you do realize the Me262's airframe was heavy...
I make it roughly 8,000lbs (empty weight) minus the Jumos at about 1,600lbs each, give or takeAnd speaking of heavy, you do realize the Me262's airframe was heavy...
The good climbe and a high speed make a true boom-and-zoom fighter, making the Zwilling a good (excellent?) choice. As for the troubles for landing gear...methinks that German engineers would've solve that issue.the 'Z would have been a good climber and fast in level flight, but it's handling in a fight would have been much like the Me410...the Doppelganger they made in the "Z" and the Me605 were heavy...enough to collapse the landing gear during trials...
Any numbes that would back the statement that Me-262's airframe was heavy?And speaking of heavy, you do realize the Me262's airframe was heavy...so you would have to find a piston engine (radial or V) that can put out power that equalled or exceeded the 004...
DB603 = 920 kg (2,030 lb) - eachI make it roughly 15,000lbs minus the Jumos, give or take
then add the weight of 2 x DB603s
I'm not seeing 500mph
I make it roughly 8,000lbs (empty weight) minus the Jumos at about 1,600lbs each, give or take
then add the weight of 2 x DB603s
I'm not seeing 500mph
GrauGeist said:You and me both, not by a long-shot!
As far as "Boom and Zoom" tactics go, it works as long as the enemy can't keep up with you...The allies had aircraft that could both "Boom and Zoom" and "Turn and Burn"...The good climbe and a high speed make a true boom-and-zoom fighter, making the Zwilling a good (excellent?) choice. As for the troubles for landing gear...methinks that German engineers would've solve that issue.
I don't think it adds up to 500mphNow, we remove the two Jumo 004B engines: 1,585lb (719kg) x 2 = 3,170lb (1,438kg)
Me262A1/a without engines = 6,539lbs (2,966kg)
So let's take 2 DB603 V-12 engines, and install them into the empty Me262:
DB603 @ 2,030lbs (920kg) X 2 = 4,060lbs (1,840kg)
Result is a weight of 10,599lbs (4,806kg)
That's a weight increase of 890lbs (402kg) with a reduction of roughly 100Mph (160Kph) in speed...
And what happens if you put ammunition and fuel in the machine?
The Me-109Z is a fighter aircraft. The Me-410 is a light bomber with a 1,000kg bomb bay. Not the same thing. In any case Me-410 production ended during 1944.Since the basic 109 was dirt cheap, developing the twin version would lead to abandonment of Bf-110-210-410 line with an aircraft of the superior performance. It also had the potential for being fast potent bomber killer and night fighter.