Messerschmitt part to identify

[Rocketeer]

Any ideas anyone please?
I thought it was at first a nose cone tip from a Me262. However, by that stage of the war, the Germans were censoring aircraft data plates and each factory used a 3 letter identifier.

The German part numbering was usually easy to understand...i.e. R8-111- for He111, and R8-190 for Fw190....you get the idea!!!?

Anyway, this has eluded my attempts at id'ing!

 

[Colin1]

is the hole a bullet hole or is there something on the inside (of the hole) that will help us?

 

[Rocketeer]

no bullet holes, the 'pointy' bit has a machined doubler plate

 

[Colin1]

so that hole near the data plate is of no consequence?

 

[FLYBOYJ]

It does look like a prop spinner but something like a data plate will put it out of balance

 

[Colin1]

I'll take a SWAG (scientific wild-assed guess) and say nacelle cover
the hole might be access to a bleed nut or adjuster of some description

 

[vikingBerserker]

Were factory plates put on the outside of the planes?

 

[Colin1]

Were factory plates put on the outside of the planes?

I think it's pretty odd too

 

[ausflyboy]

Were factory plates put on the outside of the planes?

Very much so!! ME-109's had the factory plate on the Port side cockpit area on the Outside

 

[Rocketeer]

and jolly big they are too!!!
it is very similar to the 262 nose cap.....i originally thought it was from a bullet nose for an engine

 

[Snautzer01]

is it ok if i post your question on another board?

 

[Rocketeer]

delighted old chap....please do!

 

[Colin1]

Do you have more pics of it, from other angles?

 

[VALENGO]

there is a black stain that looks like burnt from gun bursts, perhaps any kind of gun container?

 

[seesul]

It does look like a prop spinner but something like a data plate will put it out of balance

ditto

 

[A4K]

Despite the unusual addition of the data plate, looks at first glance like half a Bf 109 spinner, complete with muzzle for the nose firing cannon.
What puts that mostly in question ( to me) is the positon of the hole for the prop blade, and the fact that it looks like it would be a two blader...

 

[rochie]

Despite the unusual addition of the data plate, looks at first glance like half a Bf 109 spinner, complete with muzzle for the nose firing cannon.
What puts that mostly in question ( to me) is the positon of the hole for the prop blade, and the fact that it looks like it would be a two blader...

if you look again at the curve do you think it looks like it would be three parts to complete the spinner ? if thats what it is.
were BF 109 spinners in three sections ?
also the props look very close to the tip of the spinner

 

[A4K]

Good point karl, you could be right. I've only seen one 2 bf 109 spinners 'in the flesh' myself, but don't remember seeing any individual section joins...the muzzle was a one piece tube however. Wish I could find the photo I took of one of them...

After looking through my stuff on '109's, I'd say definitely NOT a 109 or later prop, precisely from the shape and position of the prop holes...if it is a spinner at all, could be from a Bf 108 (shape and prop position look about right) - were these fitted with a nose cap for oiling, or attachment?

 

[hub]

Looks pretty close to a 108 spinner
It maybe that the end cap is missing? it could be a 2 piece spinner and there looks like a screw in the same place on the photo.

 

[rochie]

it does look like that pic, you might have found it hub