Mosquito in action

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    Or could they be 4000lb Medium Capacity bombs?
     
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    They look more like T.Is - the 500lb bomb was smaller, and the 1,000 lb a different shape; the rounded nose and longer tail fin cone look very like target indicator munitions. Somewhere, I have the original soundtrack to this footage, on VHS, with a former Squadron member, who filmed this, describing that particular Op, and I seem to recall it was a typical mission for the squadron, - Pathfinder target marking.
    I might be wrong, but as far as I know, the Mossie could carry 500lb bombs, TIs, or the 4,000 lb 'ccokie', but wasn't 'set up' for 1,000 lb bombs.
     
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    You're right - they look like 1000lb TIs - which are very close to the size of the 1000lb MC bomb.
     
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    I'll add to the T.I. chorus, as they "fit the profile":

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    It also makes operational sense for them to be T.I.s, as those Mossies are from 627 Squadron, the low-level markers of 5 Group. Sharp and Bowyer say several hundred 1,000 lb T.I.s were dropped from Mosquitos, mostly in 1945 (Dresden being one target so marked by 627).
     
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    Thanks mhuxt.

    Do you know if it was one per plane or two?
     
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    Hi Wuzak, no worries.

    Afraid I don't know in general terms, however I've a videotape here which includes an interview with a fellow by the last name of Topper, who was the first marker on the Dresden raid. He refers to "my 1,000 pound target indicator" in the singular. Dresden was a hell of a long way though.

    The 627 Squadron ORB is available online - 3 and a half quid per month. One of the early months of 1945 may offer some insight into individual loads.
     
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    627 Squadron in retirement

    I'm a little confused. There were 8 aircraft on the mission and 10 TIs?
     
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    Do you have a link so I can check it out?
     
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    Thanks, I will look through that later.
     
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    I didn't have to look far.

    1/1/1945
    627 Squadron

    Target: Ladhergen Dortmund Ems Canal (day mission?, S/L reported as up at 8.42, down 13.06)
    Mosquito B.IV DZ.606 2 x 1000lb Red TI
    Mosquito B.IV DZ.611 TIs hung up and returned to base. No mention of size of TIs

    Target: Mitteland Canal, Gravenhorst
    Mosquito B.IV DZ.461 2 x 1000lb Red TI
    Mosquito B.IV DZ.611 1 x 1000lb Red TI
    Mosquito B.IV DZ.643 1 x 1000lb Yellow TI, 1 x 1000lb Red TI
    Mosquito B.XX KB.345 2 x 250lb Red TI. 1 x 250lb Yellow TI and 1 x Wanganui flare returned to base not required

    Would these support the idea that 2 x 1000lb MC bombs could be carried in a Mosquito?
     
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    I can now confirm that 2 x 1000lb bombs were carried operationally by Mosquitos.

    627 Squadron ORB, 31/12/1943, Target: Gestapo Headquarters, Oslo

    KB416 4 x 500lb MC
    DZ461 2 x 1000lb MC
    DZ611 2 x 1000lb MC
    DZ530 4 x 500lb MC
    DZ606 2 x 1000lb GP
    KB345 4 x 500lb MC
    DZ633 2 x 1000lb GP
    DZ643 2 x 1000lb MC
    DZ641 2 x 1000lb MC
    DZ637 4 x 500lb MC
    KB122 4 x 500lb MC
    KB362 4 x 500lb MC

    On the 29th 627 Squadron did some mining in the Elbe River.
    Some of them specify bomb load as B.244, which I assume is a buoyancy bomb. Other refer to a P.640 or P.638. What are those?
     
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    Sorry wuzak, I've no information on any of those - I've never found much on air-dropped mines.
     
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    Thanks for the link, though.

    It has been informative. Some ORBs are difficult to read and some have very little useful information. But it's great that some have provided confirmation that Mosquitoes could carry 2 x 1000lb GP or MC bombs.
     
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    Wing Commander H I Edwards VC (left), leader of the De Havilland Mosquito B Mark IVs of Nos. 105 and 139 Squadrons RAF on the raid, and his navigator approach their aircraft before taking off from Marham, Norfolk to take part in Operation OYSTER, the daylight attack on the Philips radio and valve works at Eindhoven, Holland, Dec 6 1942.
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    Ground crews prepare De Havilland Mosquito B Mark IV, DK336, of No. 105 Squadron RAF for the raid at Marham, Norfolk.
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    A De Havilland Mosquito B Mark IV of No. 105 Squadron RAF taking off for Eindhoven from Marham, Norfolk.
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    Mosquito B Mark IV Series 2, DK338, in flight after completion. DK338 served with No. 105 Squadron RAF as ‘GB-O’, and took part in the successful low-level raid on the Phillips radio factory at Eindhoven, Holland.
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