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If I may throw in a bit of trivia from a book, one reason the German intel believed their spies rather than the V-1 transponder (post 86 and 89) was because the British convinced all of the newspapers to give erroneous reports of V-1 hits, confirming what the double agents reported.
There's been speculation that Heinkel was having political issues with the RLM, but the facts don't really bear this out. Heinkel, in his own memoirs seemed a little bitter toward the RLM, both for the He100's fate and the He280's failure to be adopted.Hello GrauGeist,
Regardng He-100, one has to wonder if there was some other reason (a valid performance reason) why the He-100 was not developed.
Regardless of the limitations on engine production, it seems to me that it would have been a good candidate for the successor to the Me 109 if not the FW 190 and until production actually got underway, it would not have required a significant number of engines.
Who knows, perhaps it would eventually have been developed with a JuMo 213?
- Ivan.
The brilliant XX program: "H! You have a choice: send the nazis what we tell you or be hanged as a spy or traitor."Transponders or accurate spy reports of where the V1's were impacting one day isn't going to help much on where to aim them the next day. The wind speed and direction changes daily, and that has a tremendous effect on a missile that spends it's entire flight time at lower altitudes.
The weather has almost no effect on a V2 however, the spy reports and transponders would help adjust their aim.
But by late in the war most of the German agents in Britain had either been turned, or hung.
In regards to the engine supply issue, Daimler was manufacturing their DB600 series more as a cottage industry than a mass-manufacturer and their output didn't really ramp up in earnest until later on.
This saw quite a few types that were designed around the DB601 wither on the vine as the engines were ear-marked for the Bf109/Bf110.
Otherwise, types like the Fw187, He100 and Bf162 may have had a chance.
As far as the Jumo goes, the He100 was designed specifically for the installation of the Daimler engine and altering it to accept a Jumo211 would require an extensive and costly redesign.
That is a bit dishonest, is it allowed?My understanding of the reporting of V1 hits was that they reported actual hits but were selective about which ones they reported.
Basically the ones that were accurate weren't reported but the ones that fell short were so the Germans gradually increased the range meaning that most overshot.
I think they were all targeted on Tower Bridge but only because it is in the centre of London.There's more to hitting a target than just range, there's azimuth too.
And without accurate weather predictions, even a 150 mile flight can vary quite a bit from it's intended flight path.
But then the London metropolitan area was a pretty big target.
The Bf162 had potential but the Ju88 was able to use either inline or radials, whereas the Bf162 was designed around the DB600, like the Henschel Hs127 and these last two would require extensive refitting to accept a Jumo211.Hello GrauGeist,
I had actually never heard of the Bf 162 before. From a quick read, it does not appear to offer that much of an advantage over existing types to justify production. The FW 187 and He 100, especially the He 100 as I see it (in hindsight) had more potential a the next generation single seat fighter.
I was thinking JuMo 213 as eventually installed in FW 190D, but that engine was off in the future and Junkers had pretty severe issues in trying to increase power, Who in 1941 would have predicted the eventual success of the JuMo 213 evolution of a "Bomber Engine"?
Perhaps an engine swap would have needed a bit of redesign, but it can't be any worse than the Ki 61 going from inline to radial or the FW 190 going from radial to a DB 603 and then a JuMo.
- Ivan.
There's more to hitting a target than just range, there's azimuth too.
And without accurate weather predictions, even a 150 mile flight can vary quite a bit from it's intended flight path.
But then the London metropolitan area was a pretty big target.
If their range is off and they have no way of correcting, it doesn't really matter how accurate the azimuth is.
That can be said of either, if the azimuth is off, it doesn't matter how accurate the range is.
When I said about them reporting the short falls I meant the agents. If they reported a V1 going in where nothing had been hit and the Germans found out then they would have known their agent was compromised whereas if they just reported the ones that fell short, well they were actual hits so the Germans would know they were getting good intelligence. The fact they were only getting selective information probably wouldn't have occurred to them.
When I said about them reporting the short falls I meant the agents. If they reported a V1 going in where nothing had been hit and the Germans found out then they would have known their agent was compromised whereas if they just reported the ones that fell short, well they were actual hits so the Germans would know they were getting good intelligence. The fact they were only getting selective information probably wouldn't have occurred to them.