Odd Me-262
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joy17782
Airman 1st Class
yeah ive seen that pic before , the 50 mm cannon , wonder how stable of a platform it would have been ? one thing i liked about the germans the had alot of dare in them when it came too thinking , do you think it was a blind alley they were going up on that one , it would have made hamburger out of a b-17 or a tank
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B-17engineer
Colonel
Definatley
Erich
the old Sage
the Mauser cannon bird has been covered in a previous thread. JV 44 had one and it flew on two known missions against 9th Af B-26's on both missions the heavy silly 5cm cannon jammed
Konigstiger205
Staff Sergeant
There are limits to what a fighter can do...especially then...now a fighter can do a lot of things...I wonder how they didn't put an 88 on a plane or did they?...
joy17782
Airman 1st Class
a 88mm wouldt the recoil shot the damn plane about 25 feet back ,lol, or do you think maybe someone tried hell i would try
SoD Stitch
Banned
Watson's Whizzers captured one of the 50 mm Me 262's in Germany in 1945 and flew it to France for water tranportation back to the US onboard the HMS Reaper (along with a lot of other captured aircraft); the pilot said the big cannon barrel sticking out of the front of the plane actually had no noticeable effect on the 262's handling qualities.
The Germans reasoned that a single hit from a 50 mm shell was enough to take down a heavy bomber, even a B-17 or a B-24.
Eurofighter
Airman
- 26
- Dec 11, 2008
I have read about the Me 262 with the single 50 MM cannon and also (I'm just relying on my memory) about a special Me 262 with six 30 MM cannons, that would had been some serious fire power.
ralphwiggum
Airman
- 76
- Mar 15, 2008
It's hard for me to believe that recoil wouldn't have been a major problem to
the jet's performance I don't think that it's muzzle velocity would've been too good either but, one shot would probably destroy any allied plane
However, I'm NO authority by any means Just an opinion
the jet's performance I don't think that it's muzzle velocity would've been too good either but, one shot would probably destroy any allied plane
However, I'm NO authority by any means Just an opinion
KrazyKraut
Banned
- 337
- Apr 21, 2008
Muzzle velocity was pretty high but ROF was not. Overall I don't think it was a practical solution. The installation shows that the fighter could've been easily equipped with the MK 213 though.
beaupower32
Tech Sergeant
Captain Dunsel
Airman 1st Class
I seem to remember reading in a book that the Germans did try an 88mm on an aircraft (Ju-88 or He-177), using a counter-charge to offset the recoil. However, the counter-charge failed when it was tested and the recoil removed the gun assembly from the aircraft's belly.
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ratdog
Airman
definetily be some littered airplanes that would have to be picked up but the thing wasnt very fast if you could put a B-1 up then it would have trouble catching it would it not?
beaupower32
Tech Sergeant
Yeah, it would be very hard to catch a b-1 in a A-10 unless you cought it landing or taking off. Much like the Mustangs did with the 262 in WW2. Intresting, HUH!
Clay_Allison
Staff Sergeant
- 1,154
- Dec 24, 2008
It would need 4 engines instead of 2, just to get off the ground fast.
Way too slow. Top end is something like 400mph. And that is probably clean.
Probably a bear to dogfight though. Plenty of power, straight wing and a 30MM cannon is just one hairy fight. Have to stand off and hit it with a missle. In tight, all the advantages go to the Warthog.
BombTaxi
Tech Sergeant
Thanks for the link Mic, very interesting. If the Germans had been just a little quicker in getting their Volksjagers and their heavy guns into the air, the consequences for the strategic bombing offensive could have been disastrous. A weapon like the MK214 on a suitable platform would have played havoc with any heavy bomber 
