Painting, Future, Decals, and other finishing challenges.

Discussion in 'Painting Questions, Tutorials and Guidebooks' started by dneid, Dec 7, 2012.

  1. dneid

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    Hey, All,
    I have the 1st set of painting done on the Revell P-47. I will try to post a few pics this weekend. I am now digging through the forum on weathering ideas and techniques. I have the base coat of OD, medium Grey, and the white cowl done. I think the next step will be to try some "bleaching" weathering of the OD on one wing. The goal of this build is NOT to make a great model, it is more to learn, to experiment, to dig into weathering ideas. I did pick up a nice little set of pastel "chalks" at the local Hobby Lobby. I used pastels extensively many, many years ago (like Shep Paine many years ago). I actually got rather good at using them THEN as witnessed by my 9 best in show winners way back in the mid to late 70s and early 80s. So, be patient with me and let me get a few pics posted. Please feel free to provide any and all feedback. And, of course, hints, tips, and tricks are much appreciated.
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    Hey, Wayne,
    Thanks! I pulled those several weeks ago and have them printed and on the work bench. Damned nice tutorials you put together.
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    No Problem! Hope they come in handy! :D
     
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    #5 dneid, Dec 8, 2012
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    ok, guys, here are a couple of pics....
    1st the '47 after initial paint, but prior to weathering or Future
    View attachment 218453
    The next 2 are after some weathering attempts and application of future. I mixed up some OD with flat white and then cut the mix with thinner. Ratios are: 30 drops OD, 3 drops flat white, 15 drops thinner. I applied this mix with NEW iwata HP-C gravity fed air brush (more questions on that in a separate post). The left wing is obviously far more heavy handed than the right wing. I was trying to give you a sense of amount of Future applied with the 1st pic. 2nd pic was to show the differences between the two wings.
    View attachment 218419 View attachment 218420

    It appears that I need to learn far more touch and finesse with the idea of weathering the top side paint. I know, I know.... less is more. All feedback and hints and tips are VERY much appreciated.
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    Not a bad job but it looks like you're applying the lighter stuff over the Future? I tend to do that before the Future is applied so I can see a true colour differential, then apply the gloss when it's done.

    BTW, the pics are quite large at 3Mb each and take a bit long to load. Try saving at a lower quality ( I get mine down to less than 100kB without sacrificing clarity).
     
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    Hey, Andy,
    Nope, the weathering was done before the Future. I am still not sure about my application of Future. I think I may have gone a little too heavy. However, it is looking better after curing for about 18 hrs.
    I need to work on my picture library and resize everything down. Those pics are as they came straight of my camera (an EOS 30D).
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    Just re-size as needed, from your files, saving a separate images if required. I use 'Irfanview' - quick, easy, no loss of resolution or quality - and it's free. Can't comment on the painting, as the pics are still loading!
     
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    #9 dneid, Dec 9, 2012
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    Hey, Terry,
    I am on macintosh since the days of Blista, errr, Vista that is. I used iPhoto to resize to under 300kb. I am trying to figure out how to remove the original pics and reload them with the smaller ones.
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    #10 dneid, Dec 9, 2012
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    ok, just how do I REMOVE my original pictures? I thought I had that figured out. Turns out I now have the large and smaller sets uploaded. Can anyone tell me how scrub out the original, bigger than hell pics?
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    Go to the post, hit Edit Post, then Go Advanced. Scroll down to the Manage Attachments button and hit that. You should see your pictures in a window at the bottom of the box that opens up. When you hover over each, you should see an X in the top right corner. Press the X for each picture you want to delete, then press Done. They should be gone when you Submit Reply.
     
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    My sequence is to paint the entire plane, I use acrylics and an airbrush. When paint is 100% dry then apply 100% future over the entire plane. Apply decals when the Future is completely dry using Micro-sol or -set. When the decals are set and dry I use an airbrush to apply a 50-50 mix of flat clear and Future. Avoid glass parts which I coat with Future as well. Wayne's method of using a pencil to do panel lines is great and is done after painting
     
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    Thanks, Andy!!!
     
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    Hey, Mike,
    Thanks for the post. I appreciate you taking the time to do so.
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    Dale, you are welcome. After 40 years of building models I learned more in one year from the great guys on this site than all the other years put together.
     
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    Hey, Mike,
    Oh, I can understand you there 100%!!! These guys are awesome! Terry, Andy, you, stona, wurger, and many more I do not recall at the moment have been a huge aid and a source of some serious chuckles as well. I think I will be picking Terry's brains on a few BoB ideas and builds I have planned.
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    Dale, I will as I do Game Review first give a light hand on the base color, let it dry, with a darker color to give the lines, leaving the interior dry the lighter colored panels give, let it dry again, finally give 2 or 3 very light hands (diluted between 50 and 60%) covering slightly but revealing the colored bottom, this gives both volume and contrast paneling not have to later.
    A while ago I did a course oriented modeling airbrushing and the techniques was to use the maximum amount of posivilidades to model no more to paint.

    According to your model I would do is OD mix into 6 parts to 1 part black and give very fine lines in the panels if you want to paint them but you have it as well I would use the oils or pastels for paneling
     
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    Hey, destrozas,
    I will give your ideas a try. They make sense to me and they all sound like solid ideas. Thanks for the time to provide feedback.
    Dale
     
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    #19 dneid, Dec 15, 2012
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    Hey, All,
    Work and real life have been keeping me busy. But, I have made some progress on the test P-47. Below are 2 shots of where I am at with it. One question for you all; any tips are putting those DAMNED SMALL decals on? I have lost more of them sticking to my fingers, toothpicks, brushes, etc.

    IMG_5838_smaller.jpg IMG_5839_smaller.jpg

    BTW, this is my 1st almost complete kit in about 15 yrs. Man, I had to learn or relearn so many things. Overall, I am ok with where it is at this point. I am trying to decide how extensive to get with weathering the plane. Any pics you all may have of heavily weathered aircraft AND/OR models would be really appreciated.
    Dale
     
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    Before I came on this site, I was content with painting the exterior, and then painting the inside of the canopy white so I didn't have to do the cockpits!!!!! I've learned a fair bit as well.
     
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