PZL P11c...."ugly plane" (?)

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  1. tino

    tino New Member

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    PZL P.11c 1934 Model

    Type: Fighter
    Weight: Empty: 1022 kg Take-off: 1650 kg Max Take-off: 1800 kg
    Length: 7.55 m
    Wingspan: 10.72 m
    Height: 2.85m
    Engine:pZL Bristol Mercury VS2
    Power:Take-off:560 HP
    Speed: Sea level: 276 km/h At 5000m: 375 km/h Cruise: 250 km/h
    Stalling: 120 km/h
    Climb: Initial: 12.4m/s to 2000m: 2min 29s Service ceiling: 8040m.
    Range: 550 km.
    Armament:
    Four synchronized forward-firing 7.9 mm PWU wz.33 machine guns in the fuselage
    Disposable: 2x12,5 kg bombs.
    2x7.62mm MG (ShKAS)
    2x23mm cannon (VYa)
    Crew: One (pilot)

    Manufacturer : Panstwowe Zaklady Lotnicze (PZL) Warsaw, Poland
    Power-plant: PZL Bristol Mercury VS2 engine driving wooden 2-bladed Szomanski propeller, rated at 560 hp (441 kW) for take-off. In 1934, when Lotnictwo Wojskowe (PAF) acquired the first PZL P.11 fighters, they were the most modern fighter planes in service. The P.11c was an aerodynamically clean high-wing monoplane of all-metal construction. The
    characteristic bent "gull-like" shape of the wings was adopted to reduce drag by eliminating the need for any supporting structure between the center section and the fuselage.
    Only five years later, when they saw combat for the first time, German Me 109 and Bf 110 fighters hopelessly outclassed them. Still, with skill and determination, Polish pilots were able to attain a remarkable number of victories, and the plane's sturdiness, maneuverability and good handling qualities helped them stage a defiant resistance under the most adverse of circumstances. Though accurate counts are sketchy, the actual number of German aircraft shot down by fighter pilots in the short campaign was probably around 105-110, to the loss of only 26 P.11s to air-combat. Given the enormous technical and numerical advantage of the Luftwaffe, these numbers show the excellent skills and determination of Polish fighter pilots and their trust in the machine that carried them into battle.
     

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    I always thought the P.11 was a nifty looking little plane, myself.
    As for the skill and bravery of the Polish pilots, I don't think it was ever in doubt. This would become even more apparent with the Polish squadrons of the RAF, later on. 8)
     
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    I think the P.11 is a superb looking plane, Its one of my favourites. 8) And I agree with you about the Polish pilots NS. 8)
     
  4. the lancaster kicks ass

    the lancaster kicks ass Active Member

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    it's ugly.............
     
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    It's not ugly, it's got character
     
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    no, the lancaster has character, that's just crap............
     
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    Ah Lanc,

    You love the bovine excrement that is the Lancaster yet throw stones at the glory that is the P.11

    How strange!

    Kiwimac
     
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    "Bovine excrement" might be a tad harse! :rolleyes:
     
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    I think that all planes look good (unless it's a French bomber)
     
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    Nah, Kiwimac makes more sense than anyone else on the site ;)


    Oh shit, did I really say that?! Get my pills, im going delirious again :shock: :lol:
     
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    I fail to see how you could consider the Lancaster ugly, but I also fail how to see you could think the P.11c is ugly. I think they both look good.
     
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    At the moment I have a very nasty, prominent boil on my chin....

    So does the Lancaster ;)
     
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    cheap shot.............

    and french bombers look brilliant...................
     
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    :confused:
     
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    French bombers look like a collection of Volvos glued together.
     
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    :lol:

    Old Volvos that is :lol: Cant wait until Gran Turisno 4 on PS2, ive seen a screenshot of a Volvo 240 estate :lol:
     
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    It is nice to see my genius is recognised.

    Kiwimac :D
     
  18. Chocks away!

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    It's a great looking plane, and fought in the hands of heroic pilots. It's a little legend
     
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    Yep, kinda like Polands version of the Spitfire ;) :lol: :rolleyes:
     
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    I'd have said the Polish I-16, outclassed but put up an amazing fight against overwhelming odds
     
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