Question about tank

[VALENGO]

Hi, gentlemen ,since this is not ww2tanks, I posted this here, if not the proper place, please move it.
I've seen pics of the King Tiger number 11, let's call it Porsche turret, after defeated and abandoned, without all the external equipment due to vandalism. But a new (for me) pic shows it being towed, with the fatal shot in the turret, but with all the external equipment, even the mudguard repaired and the frontal lamp again in place!
I listen your theories, thanks in advance.

 

[Snautzer01]

Tanks on all sides that were knocked out and that could be retrieved were repaired. Is there for not un common to see this.

 

[Frog]

Tanks on all sides that were knocked out and that could be retrieved were repaired. Is there for not un common to see this.

This Königstiger was one of 5 numbered 02, 03, 11, 12 & 13 that tried to defend Châteaudun on august 17, 1944. They formerly belonged to Funklent Panzer Kompanie .316 attached to the Panzer Lehr. As general Bayerlein was dubious about their reliability, he had them replaced by 9 Sturmgeschûtz III.

At that time, they were under control of a 2nd repair company in Châteaudun awaiting transfer to Germany.

N° 11 that was already disabled by a mechanic breakdown, was placed to cover the crossroad between rue du Mail and boulevard Kellerman at Châteaudun.
Châteaudun was liberated by the US 320th Infantry Regiment.

 

[Wurger]

The Tiger II Ausf. B no. 11 belonged to the 1./Panzer Abteilung 302 while trying to defend Châteaudun on august 17, 1944.

the pic source:
Missing-Lynx-Tiger II number 13

Heng Long Tiger II "Porsche" turret (Early Tiger II) - Page 3

PREMISE So, finally here we are. I bought this model shortly after its release, it was maybe 2012, I was definitely still too young to get everything I needed!

www.rctankwarfare.co.uk

Königstiger part 2 | World War Photos

Königstiger photo gallery part 2.

www.worldwarphotos.info

Excerpt from a unit history by Wolfgang Schneider relating to Tiger II #'11'

 

[Frog]

The Tiger II Ausf. B no. 11 belonged to the 1./Panzer Abteilung 302 while trying to defend Châteaudun on august 17, 1944.

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the pic source:
Missing-Lynx-Tiger II number 13

Heng Long Tiger II "Porsche" turret (Early Tiger II) - Page 3

PREMISE So, finally here we are. I bought this model shortly after its release, it was maybe 2012, I was definitely still too young to get everything I needed!

www.rctankwarfare.co.uk

Königstiger part 2 | World War Photos

Königstiger photo gallery part 2.

www.worldwarphotos.info

Excerpt from a unit history by Wolfgang Schneider relating to Tiger II #'11'
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We were both right : on July 15, 1944, FKL 316 is removed from the inventory of the Panzer Lehr Division and assigned to 1./Panzer Abteilung 302 (Fkl).

There is a mystery concerning another Tiger n° 03 at Châteaudun, which would mean there were 6, not 5 Tiger at Châteaudun this day. The company received its
first 5 Tiger on March 14, 1944. Theorically, a FKL Kompanie should have a complement of 14 tanks, which means it could have received more later.

 

[Wurger]

Agreed.

 

[Snautzer01]

Nice one guys.

 

[VALENGO]

Lots of interesting information, I appreciate it, but still don't see why allied forces repaired the Tiger.

 

[Snautzer01]

Allied troops had a habit of using, in this case, German aircraft tanks trucks artillery.
As a trophy or for bragging rights and in some cases operational use.
A big King Tiger was offcourse topnotch.

Germans had lots of foreign stuff but that was more a necessity.

Use below search to get an idea how many were under new management.

Search results for query: Beute

ww2aircraft.net

 

[Frog]

Lots of interesting information, I appreciate it, but still don't see why allied forces repaired the Tiger.

For tests purpose to see what it was really worth of.

 

[SaparotRob]

I thought it was to impress the chicks at the drive-in.

 

[GTX]

Tanks on all sides that were knocked out and that could be retrieved were repaired. Is there for not un common to see this.

Indeed

 

[Snautzer01]

I thought it was to impress the chicks at the drive-in.

 

[VALENGO]

Allied troops had a habit of using, in this case, German aircraft tanks trucks artillery.
As a trophy or for bragging rights and in some cases operational use.
A big King Tiger was offcourse topnotch.

Germans had lots of foreign stuff but that was more a necessity.

Use below search to get an idea how many were under new management.

Search results for query: Beute

ww2aircraft.net

Thanks, mate!

 

[Snautzer01]

For tests purpose to see what it was really worth of.

Yes but that were not the ones that stayed with the troops. You have to know army to understand how those units could maintain those foreign tanks (or whatever)..
Look at Big Red One. Everything that could move, was used. Tanks trucks arty. Anything of use.

Airforce is another beast. They just did. And as commanding staff were the same age, bragging rights were important. And also if you know the enemies equipement, you are one step up in a fight. It is not for nothing the flyboys got near enemy gear fast as they could.

 

[Frog]

Yes but that were not the ones that stayed with the troops. You have to know army to understand how those units could maintain those foreign tanks (or whatever)..
Look at Big Red One. Everything that could move, was used. Tanks trucks arty. Anything of use.

Airforce is another beast. They just did. And as commanding staff were the same age, bragging rights were important. And also if you know the enemies equipement, you are one step up in a fight. It is not for nothing the flyboys got near enemy gear fast as they could.

The one preserved at Saumur tank museum is a good example :

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D9cuFDhlPTZM&ved=2ahUKEwijqZy6vKuNAxW-K_sDHWWYAi0QwqsBegQIDhAF&usg=AOvVaw0rDKMTTUH8TKG1b6Jsov4G

 

[Snautzer01]

The one preserved at Saumur tank museum is a good example :

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D9cuFDhlPTZM&ved=2ahUKEwijqZy6vKuNAxW-K_sDHWWYAi0QwqsBegQIDhAF&usg=AOvVaw0rDKMTTUH8TKG1b6Jsov4G

Been there. Nice museum.