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Benevolens Magister
Sounds like it's coming together nicely Darryl. Looking forward to the pics mate.
1:1 Spitfire K9817 Cockpit Build
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Tony Hill
Tech Sergeant
Thanks Gents,
I will do!
The latest arrivals... (Triple Brake Gauge 10 minutes ago)
The flap lever will have a rotary switch drilled through it, the TBG will be a "dead" one and the radio controller may be wired for activating the Flight Illusions Collins Radio I have coming but more likely just for a couple of lights to come on whenthe collins is in use.
Darryl
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I will do!
The latest arrivals... (Triple Brake Gauge 10 minutes ago)
The flap lever will have a rotary switch drilled through it, the TBG will be a "dead" one and the radio controller may be wired for activating the Flight Illusions Collins Radio I have coming but more likely just for a couple of lights to come on whenthe collins is in use.
Darryl
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Heinz
Captain
Awesome stuff mate 
Sweet!!8)
109ROAMING
2nd Lieutenant
Bloody Sweet! 8)
Looking good. Really looking forward to seeing the final product.
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Benevolens Magister
I agree with all, looking forward to more Darryl.
Tony,
I'm new here, and I noticed that you are going with the Jurca plans. Would
you be interested in real thing? I've been working on 2D Cad drawings, from factory drawings. I can scale any size. I have most of the frames drawings completed. I'm not sure if I'm going to make a sim, or the whole aircraft.
I've done the fin spar, and fame 21. Hammering out frame 8 and the instrument panel now, so I can sit behind it and make airplane noises.
Food for thought,
Nate
I'm new here, and I noticed that you are going with the Jurca plans. Would
you be interested in real thing? I've been working on 2D Cad drawings, from factory drawings. I can scale any size. I have most of the frames drawings completed. I'm not sure if I'm going to make a sim, or the whole aircraft.
I've done the fin spar, and fame 21. Hammering out frame 8 and the instrument panel now, so I can sit behind it and make airplane noises.
Food for thought,
Nate
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Tony Hill
Tech Sergeant
Thanks guys,
Yes Maglar, the old wallet suffers badly when I get these hairbrained schemes. I don't know exactly what I spent on the F-16 and frankly, I don't want to. If I knew, the wife may ask!!
Thanks Nate, I have the GA's of the frames but as the outside is only semi scale (due to space, visual and computer practical considerations) I decided to use the more generic. The longerons however will be properly placed rather than the squre box structure of that plan.
I would love a copy of "that frame behind the instrument panel" as they call it, though. The internal dimensions would save me scaling off photos. My IP is the real dimensions from the GA's.
Oh, and airplane noises? BEEN THERE!!
Last weekend I had the chance to test fly the controls. What a blast!! They handle much like the Extra does in real life (with a much reduced rate of roll for the Spitfire of course!) and feel like real controls. After five minutes getting used to them, I launched into some serious aerobatics and was VERY impressed. Square rolls were a joy and deadly accurate. The aileron controls have a great feel and banging in a bit of reverse aileron to arrest the roll gave a realistic result. The only thing missing was the pressure of harness on shoulders in the inverted 1/4.
I am seriously in love. The surprise is that the 11 deg backward lean of the column at neutral is hardly noticable but the fact that total travel is only 22deg (11 forward 11 back) makes it a very "twitchy" in pitch...exactly as it should be. It also results in the "think not control" sense that you get throwing her about. I am impressed by the "broken control" idea on the airlerons and can't imagine why more aircraft designers didn't pick that up. Not having to bang the stick against your legs to turn gives a very positive control and the short throw also adds to the "think not control" that you hear so much from her pilots.
All in all a good bit of progress without actually lifting a tool!!
Darryl
Yes Maglar, the old wallet suffers badly when I get these hairbrained schemes. I don't know exactly what I spent on the F-16 and frankly, I don't want to. If I knew, the wife may ask!!
Thanks Nate, I have the GA's of the frames but as the outside is only semi scale (due to space, visual and computer practical considerations) I decided to use the more generic. The longerons however will be properly placed rather than the squre box structure of that plan.
I would love a copy of "that frame behind the instrument panel" as they call it, though. The internal dimensions would save me scaling off photos. My IP is the real dimensions from the GA's.
Oh, and airplane noises? BEEN THERE!!
Last weekend I had the chance to test fly the controls. What a blast!! They handle much like the Extra does in real life (with a much reduced rate of roll for the Spitfire of course!) and feel like real controls. After five minutes getting used to them, I launched into some serious aerobatics and was VERY impressed. Square rolls were a joy and deadly accurate. The aileron controls have a great feel and banging in a bit of reverse aileron to arrest the roll gave a realistic result. The only thing missing was the pressure of harness on shoulders in the inverted 1/4.
I am seriously in love. The surprise is that the 11 deg backward lean of the column at neutral is hardly noticable but the fact that total travel is only 22deg (11 forward 11 back) makes it a very "twitchy" in pitch...exactly as it should be. It also results in the "think not control" sense that you get throwing her about. I am impressed by the "broken control" idea on the airlerons and can't imagine why more aircraft designers didn't pick that up. Not having to bang the stick against your legs to turn gives a very positive control and the short throw also adds to the "think not control" that you hear so much from her pilots.
All in all a good bit of progress without actually lifting a tool!!
Darryl
109ROAMING
2nd Lieutenant
Excellent! ,Looking forward to more mate
Heinz
Captain
With Daniel here!
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Tony Hill
Tech Sergeant
Thanks gents,
Ok, I got the camera charged and a couple of recent progress pics.
The "Danger" flap on the IFF completed. The body is actually still in undercoat primer, not red as it appears. The label flap is bright red.
Panel work. The temporary panel is out of 3mm hardboard. It is OK for test fitting but too weak for the final product. We will draw a detailed measured plan off this and send it for laser cutting in 3mm aluminium.
The real plan here is difficult to get cut because it is in Imperial (and everybody here speaks that metric crap these days) and the gauges from Flight Illusion are slightly different size to some of the real ones. It was a useful guide though.
And my temp:
The Blind Flying Panel cut out is also not quite right but the coreldraw plan for cutting will have it marked correctly and the BFP covers it anyway.
And finally, the reason I gave up making aircraft models…a very frustrating night spent masking, painting, stripping, repainting etc the gunsight buldbs….until I was ready to smash them for the untidy edges…..THEN I found a few pictures of real ones
And they have untidy edges anyway. So here they are, finished for better or worse.
This weekend is hopefully to be spent assembling and truing up the fuselage section.
Any one who would like copies of the cockpit photos I took of the Mk 22 on last weekend, please PM me and I'll organise it.
Cheers
Darryl
Ok, I got the camera charged and a couple of recent progress pics.
The "Danger" flap on the IFF completed. The body is actually still in undercoat primer, not red as it appears. The label flap is bright red.
Panel work. The temporary panel is out of 3mm hardboard. It is OK for test fitting but too weak for the final product. We will draw a detailed measured plan off this and send it for laser cutting in 3mm aluminium.
The real plan here is difficult to get cut because it is in Imperial (and everybody here speaks that metric crap these days) and the gauges from Flight Illusion are slightly different size to some of the real ones. It was a useful guide though.
And my temp:
The Blind Flying Panel cut out is also not quite right but the coreldraw plan for cutting will have it marked correctly and the BFP covers it anyway.
And finally, the reason I gave up making aircraft models…a very frustrating night spent masking, painting, stripping, repainting etc the gunsight buldbs….until I was ready to smash them for the untidy edges…..THEN I found a few pictures of real ones
And they have untidy edges anyway. So here they are, finished for better or worse.
This weekend is hopefully to be spent assembling and truing up the fuselage section.
Any one who would like copies of the cockpit photos I took of the Mk 22 on last weekend, please PM me and I'll organise it.
Cheers
Darryl
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Benevolens Magister
Nice stuff Darryl, seems like it's moving along fairly quickly. Wish I lived closer, would love to see the finished article in 'the flesh'!
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Tony Hill
Tech Sergeant
Thanks Terry,
There's always a bed here for a few days if you are ever out this way. A scenic flight even.
I am trying to keep this to a 12 month build but we'll see. I started about June 08 so I'll be battling now.
cheers
Darryl
There's always a bed here for a few days if you are ever out this way. A scenic flight even.
I am trying to keep this to a 12 month build but we'll see. I started about June 08 so I'll be battling now.
cheers
Darryl
109ROAMING
2nd Lieutenant
Looking good Darryl! bloody impressed mate
Hey tony i love the work i gotta come over near your way on the weekend. if you like i could stop by with the snifter. I wouldnt mind looking at you cockpit to help get some ideas.
Im making a f18 cockpit for my computer with gauges given to me by boeing (The old man works for boeing) and i would like to see how you hooked everything up. Are you using two or one computers in network or a good pci card that can handle input info?
Im making a f18 cockpit for my computer with gauges given to me by boeing (The old man works for boeing) and i would like to see how you hooked everything up. Are you using two or one computers in network or a good pci card that can handle input info?
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Tony Hill
Tech Sergeant
Hi mate,
PM sent about teh weekend.
The F-16 works off a single computer with a good graphics card running Open Falcon. The MFD's were going to be live screens but I ran into space problems and elected to go TiR and "on screen". The track IR is great.
The spitfire will likewise be a single computer...no extra data screens etc needed. I will probably run a fourth screen (I'm using TH2go and there screens for the main views) for the rear vision mirror. On PRU missions it is vital to know if a contrail pops up behind!
cheers
Darryl
Heinz
Captain
Amazing mate 
