Starting out buying old fire arms

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  1. MacArther

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    Ok, I'm just starting to get into old firearms of say the WW2 vintage or look (i.e. Mosin, Kar, etc.). Before I go on a shopping spree, I'd like some sage words of advice from all of you, as well as some questions on loading and what not. First, what is the average older wooden stock (mosin, kar, garand, springfield, etc.) going to run me up front when I buy it? I'm not looking for a collector's item, or something to show off, just a good old fashioned rifle that will work correctly. Second, how proficient will I have to be with calibers in order to use the rifle correctly? For instance, I keep hearing about 8x57mm, but the only rifle I know that used something similar was 7.92mm German, are they compatible? Third, where would be the best place to get the rifle, from a sporting goods store, Wal-Mart :):shudder::), or online? Next, what would be a good starter rifle (bolt/gas) of the time frame I indicated? And finally (and somewhat out of order), how long does it take to get a shooting permit on average? Keep your eyes on this post if you can, because I'm sure I'll come up with new questions to fire off (pun intended).
     
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    A few years back, I remember seeing Japanese WW2 rifles and British Einfields in Big 5 sporting goods!

    I like looking for that kind of stuff at gun shows
     
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    Before you go off half cocked :evil4: I would check with your local laws
    about what you can have and what you can't . For some items you may
    have to be registered with the ATF as a collector. The fee for this is quite
    high. There may be local laws about what you can own and what you can't.

    The state of Maryland has some strange firearms laws. If you own a "war
    weapon" it must be rendered useless by plugging the barrrel.

    So before you go buying stuff, make sure you can legally keep it.

    Charles
     
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    New Jersey is even worse when it comes to gun laws.
     
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    MacArther,

    The 7.92x57 JS is the same as the 8x57 JS, it's just called the 8x57 JS to keep it short. The Germans always refered to it as the 7.92x57mm JS (IS).

    Now remember that 7.92x57 JS ammunition is for a different type action than the older 7.92x57mm JRS which is meant for 1888 rifles, the older cartridge being a rimmed one (Hence JRS). The modern 7.92x57mm JS is the type fired by the K98k and all other German Mauser 98's.

    So in short be sure not to put JS ammunition in a 1888 Mauser as it isn't built to cope with such a high pressure round.
     
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    Just yesterday I was at my father-in-laws shooting his AR-15, SKS, and AK-47. The AR-15 and AK-47 have been modified to go full auto (VERY illegal). Man, that AR is a sweet rifle, but I believe at gun shows they are going for about $1400 (give or take a couple hundred). About 10 years ago, you could get SKS's for $79 and AK's for $99. Not sure of the price right now. The AK is pretty fun to shoot too.

    But like Charles said, make sure of your local laws first. Ignorance is not an excuse.
     
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    ok, i have a few the mauser is not for the faint,ok the springfield is a good learner, along with the lee enfield, the riussian guns there good and very strong, i also have a m-1 and a m-14 but if you want collector grade look at the serial # thats the most important thing and with the german mauser try too get original german mauser , mine has matching serial # and was made in 1943 at wurtsburg it has the stamp in all the right places, but if you want a good shooter not much cash and easy fireing get a russian rifle there sooo coool !!!!! and bolt action is the way too go dont need fed papers on them and alway go too gun shows you can buy private and no paperwork for all the fed loveing gun haters , remember guns dont kill people people do so bee safe ok
     
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