The North American Aviation Strike of June 7 1941

[syscom3]

A little bit of history. This was at their Inglewood California plant (which is now part of LAX airport).

B25's, NA-73's and AT-6 were in production.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2011/06/north-american-aviation-strike-part-1.html

 

[fastmongrel]

Isnt the right to have a democratic vote and the right to withdraw labour exactly what the West was fighting for. It was the likes of Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and Tojo that were banning the rights of the common man, how does a democracy that wasnt at war justify the use of the military.

 

[syscom3]

Isnt the right to have a democratic vote and the right to withdraw labour exactly what the West was fighting for. It was the likes of Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and Tojo that were banning the rights of the common man, how does a democracy that wasnt at war justify the use of the military.

Not when there is a national emergency going on. The United Mine Workers threatened the same thing about shutting down the coal mines. Didnt work out at all after some pointed threats.

 

[fastmongrel]

Not when there is a national emergency going on. The United Mine Workers threatened the same thing about shutting down the coal mines. Didnt work out at all after some pointed threats.

What National emergency.

 

[syscom3]

What National emergency.

The defense build up of 1941. The armed forces were building up as fast as possible.

 

[GrauGeist]

What National emergency.

If you go back and look at the events in England at the dawn of the war as well as after war broke out, a great deal of civil liberties were restricted there, too.

In the U.S., the realization that a storm was brewing became clear and efforts were made to ramp up production, but the unions and liberals/isolationists tried making demands that were simply counter-productive.

 

[gjs238]

Some seem to think USA was asleep and isolationist right up to Dec 7, 1941.

 

[syscom3]

Some seem to think USA was asleep and isolationist right up to Dec 7, 1941.

Its a complex issue. There were some isolationists that were opposed to any involvement over seas, and not to build up the military. Many were communists or socialists who held that view. Till Hitler invaded the USSR of course.

Many others didn't want any over seas adventures but were supportive of the rearming of the military and some included that view to support allied nations.

 

[GrauGeist]

Charles Lindberg was a champion for the isolationist movement.

He also wrote a very prophetic observation before the war:

I was deeply concerned that the potentially gigantic power of America, guided by uninformed and impractical idealism, might crusade into Europe to destroy Hitler without realizing that Hitler's destruction would lay Europe open to the rape, loot and barbarism of Soviet Russia's forces, causing possibly the fatal wounding of western civilization

 

[gjs238]

Charles Lindberg was a champion for the isolationist movement.
He also wrote a very prophetic observation before the war:

I was deeply concerned that the potentially gigantic power of America, guided by uninformed and impractical idealism, might crusade into Europe to destroy Hitler without realizing that Hitler's destruction would lay Europe open to the rape, loot and barbarism of Soviet Russia's forces, causing possibly the fatal wounding of western civilization

To complete what the Golden Horde left unfinished.
Beware the Horde!

 

[fastmongrel]

If you go back and look at the events in England at the dawn of the war as well as after war broke out, a great deal of civil liberties were restricted there, too.

Some Civil Liberties were restricted but there were plenty of labour disputes right through the war there were even strikes and work to rules in the London Docks before and during the London Blitz.

In the U.S., the realization that a storm was brewing became clear and efforts were made to ramp up production, but the unions and liberals/isolationists tried making demands that were simply counter-productive.

I thought that there was still a large majority against war at that time. Certainly FDR got a lot of abuse for his actions which seemed to many as warlike against both German and Japan. Many Republicans and Southern Democrats were very vocally anti war. I know Liberal has a different meaning in the US these days compared to the rest of the world but many if not a majority of US citizens described themselves as Liberal neither right nor left at the time.,

 

[syscom3]

A great book to read about the isolationists, FDR and national politics.

I highly recommend this.

https://books.google.com/books/abou...ver&source=kp_read_button#v=onepage&q&f=false