No, you misquote. It states that there "is practically nothing to choose" between the Tempest V and the Me.109 in rate of roll below 350 IAS. Also, "The climb of the Me.109 is superior to that of the Tempest at all heights".
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It doesn't mention the speed at which they roll differently.
What is remarkable is that the much larger Tempest and Spits outroll the 109 at every or higher speeds although they have to move much more area and mass.
So the 109 has to be quite worse from an engineering pov concerning roll rate.
Unfortunately, only in Russian translation. The English translation (unofficial?) is available online, but the quality of the pdf-file is poor.Any chance you have that tests at hand?
IIRC they where slighty better rolling than the 109 but vastly inferior to the 190, but my memory could serve me wrong
I wrote/it says the Tempest outmanoeuvers/outrolls the much smaller 109 at higher speeds. ("Except when the aircraft are climbed steeply at low speed"). That is a pathetic display for such a small aircraft.No, you misquote. It states that there "is practically nothing to choose" between the Tempest V and the Me.109 in rate of roll below 350 IAS. Also, "The climb of the Me.109 is superior to that of the Tempest at all heights".
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I blame fast food and online gaming.
Urbanke quoted a German pilot that the "La-5 could deter pursuit by diving away at an altitude of 800 m. 109 and 190 were not able to follow as they couldn't recover from this altitude".Unfortunately, only in Russian translation. The English translation (unofficial?) is available online, but the quality of the pdf-file is poor.
You realise, of course, that 350 IAS is around 465 TAS @20,000'?I wrote/it says the Tempest outmanoeuvers/outrolls the much smaller 109 at higher speeds. ("Except when the aircraft are climbed steeply at low speed"). That is a pathetic display for such a small aircraft.
Hey, no need to be insulting...I wasn't going personal.You realise, of course, that 350 IAS is around 465 TAS @20,000'?
Maybe your pathetic comment displays your opinion?
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Well, the retractable tail wheel (with open aperture, no door) was actually deleted after the F model. However, some early G versions seem to have had the retractable function retro fitted, probably with F parts. Likewise, the reference to larger tail area is possibly more of a E to F version change, so It looks like a crib of an F report.Irrelevant to this discussion, but I think this is an error in the report cited above.
As far I know, no Bf109G-6 had a retractable, or partially retractable tail wheel. This function was deleted after the G-2, and not reinstated until the K series.
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Yes, looking at pics of TP814 (412951) show it had the gondola cannon up to and including the final accident. Also it was NOT an AS engined version and, it did not have MW50.I think the larger (wooden) tail was introduced with the G-6 (but not all G-6's), coinciding with the larger diameter 'AS' supercharger. Or perhaps with MW-50 introduction? The G series is a mess of field modifications and service kits
additionally the the belly attachment to carry a drop tank/bomb, so when comparing the 109 in terms of climb speed and top speed this particular one is not the bog down standard fighter versiones, looking at pics of TP814 (412951) show it had the gondola cannon up to and including the final accident
While I think the conclusions drawn from the trial may be as accurate as can be expected under the circumstances, it would have also been wise for an Allied pilot to not lean too heavily on them. The G-6 specifically varied wildly in possible modifications and configurations, and the example as tested would have probably been one of the poorer performing.additionally the the belly attachment to carry a drop tank/bomb, so when comparing the 109 in terms of climb speed and top speed this particular one is not the bog down standard fighter version
Or the fact that the world was locked.in a great depression and an abundanve of food was not available like today.I blame fast food and online gaming.