Y1B-17

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  1. Njaco

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    While searching for some pics of a particular B-17, I came across a Flickr site with some great pics including these of Y1B-17s.


    Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    On 17 January 1936, through a legal loophole, the Air Corps ordered 13 YB-17s (designated Y1B-17 after November 1936 to denote its special F-1 funding) for service testing. The YB-17 incorporated a number of significant changes from the Model 299, including more powerful Wright R-1820-39 Cyclone engines replacing the original Pratt Whitneys. Although the prototype was company-owned and never received a military serial (the B-17 designation itself did not appear officially until January 1936, nearly three months after the prototype crashed), the term "XB-17" was retroactively applied to the airframe and has entered the lexicon to describe the first Flying Fortress.

    Between 1 March and 4 August 1937, 12 of the 13 Y1B-17s were delivered to the 2nd Bombardment Group at Langley Field in Virginia for operational development and flight tests. One suggestion adopted was the use of a pre-flight checklist to avoid accidents such as that which befell the Model 299. In one of their first missions, three B-17s, directed by lead navigator Lieutenant Curtis LeMay, were sent by General Andrews to "intercept" and photograph the Italian ocean liner Rex 610 miles (980 km) off the Atlantic coast. The mission was successful and widely publicized. The 13th Y1B-17 was delivered to the Material Division at Wright Field, Ohio, to be used for flight testing.

    A 14th Y1B-17 (37-369), originally constructed for ground testing of the airframe's strength, was upgraded and fitted with exhaust-driven turbochargers. Scheduled to fly in 1937, it encountered problems with the turbochargers, and its first flight was delayed until 29 April 1938. The aircraft was delivered to the Army on 31 January 1939. Once service testing was complete, the Y1B-17s and Y1B-17A were redesignated B-17 and B-17A respectively to signify the change to operational status.

    I'll post more as I find them.
     

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    I have never seen that camo scheme before, very cool.
     
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    Me either Dave, that last one is very interesting Chris!:thumbleft:
     
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    First I have seen of the camo scheme as well. Very cool find, Chris!

    Here are a few of the early ones that I have pics of.
     

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    Great pics Chris and Eric!
     
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    I still kind of laugh when I see that puny little peashooter barrel sticking out of the front of the early model. Hard to imagine that being able to do any damage to an airplane.
     
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    The RAF had a nice song about her small payload too:

    Fifty Flying Fortresses at fifty thousand feet,
    Fifty Flying Fortresses at fifty thousand feet,
    But they've only got one teeny weeny bomb...
     
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    Great pics. I haven't seem many of them before.

    Regarding the single gun on the front, it was actually very affective. The gunner would cover the front wind screen of an enemy fighter with spit wads so he couldn't see and crash. :lol:
     
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    Cool shots Chris!
     
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    I want to build the plane in the last photo of the original post. There is color drawing of the plane in a book my father has, see link. The plane is sky blue, white, light grey and unpainted metal, a lots of purple and a little green.

    Squadron Signal Publications - Items
     
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    If I'm not mistaken, the camo had to do with the war games of 1939.
     
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    #12 fubar57, May 19, 2012
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    The colors in the Air Force Colors 1926-1942 from Squadron Publications are given as follows: "white 25, light blue 27, sea green 28, dark green 30, dark olive drab 31, neutral grey 32, and areas of unpainted metal." The bottom of the plane looks like the same colors but very light or faded. Used by the 20th BS, 2nd BG, May 1938 for the GHQAF Anti-aircraft Maneuvers.
    Edit...would post a 4 view of the aircraft but unsure of copy-write rules.
    Geo
     
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    Go ahead and post the pics. Make sure you give a source such as a book or website. These pics were found with a disclaimer that they were from US Archives and public domain.
     
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    From the book mentioned in my last post. Bomber BB-52. This is the aircraft in your photo Njaco and thanks for the info.

    Capture11.JPG

    Geo
     
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    You could start out with the Academy 1/72nd scale B-17B/C kit, but it would take some modification.
     
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    I have an article at home about how to transform the academy kit. Quite a lot of work. PM me those who want it. And be patient.
     
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