**** DONE: GB-58 1/48 Messerschmitt Bf110G-4 - Night Fighters all Eras

[Crimea_River]

Question Wurger Wojtek:

Eduard depict this rig with yellow wing tips on the underside. The video posted on page 1 doesn't help so the best pic I have is this:

There is clearly a yellow band on the rear fuselage but the wing tip undersides aren't clear. Did the yellow band mean yellow wing tips too? Odd marks for a night fighter

 

[Wurger]

Actually I can't see the yellow colour on the wing tip undersides. The kind of marking is more characteristic for the "Ost Front" rather. So if the kite was servicing there it could "inherited" the markings. IMHO the Eduard might follow the pic seen below with the black painted Bf 110D and the fact that there is the yellow band on the tail. It seems that a couple of the planes had the kind of the markings applied while servicing in Belgium. But it wasn't the rule. Also the Eduard could follow the images of the aircraft exhibited in the Hendon RAF Museum. Anyway, the yellow wing tips are the Eduard's supposition only because the yellow band wasn't the rule for having the wing tips of the same coat. So ... it's up in the air. Just my opinion.

the pic source: the net.

 

[Wayne Little]

Having looked at those pics, there is a possibility there is Yellow under those wingtips, there does seem to be a slightly darker area outboard of the crosses, asharper image would solve the problem.....

 

[Crimea_River]

Thanks for your opinions guys, much appreciated. I too see a little bit of contrast outboard of the under wing crosses. Might go ahead and paint the tips.

 

[Wurger]

The contrast thre could be caused by the two darker smudges that can be noticed in the another copy of the pic. Also the white outline of the LW cross makes the effect more exaggerated.

the source: Messerschmitt Bf 110 G-4 Zerstörer 6./NJG101 (9W+BO) Fritzlar, Germany 1945

PS. It seems I know what the two smodges were. A PM sent.

 

[Crimea_River]

Yes, the remnants of the yellow V marking can be seen outboard of the cross on the wing underside. Good catch. More info: Yellow "V" Markings

 

[Wurger]

Perhaps John Vasco can shed more light?

 

[John Vasco]

Perhaps John Vasco can shed more light?

NIght fighters are not my forte. However, from the photos I have seen over the decades, particularly late-war, there is no hard-and-fast rule as to underwing markings. They were quite prevalent on the Bf 110s of the Wespengeschwader (ZG 1) on the Russian Front from January 1942 onwards, but for night fighters, one has to go by the individual photos, and the clarity of them. Sorry I could not be of more help...

 

[Wurger]

THX for dropping a line.

 

[Crimea_River]

Decal challenges. I used a test decal to see how they would respond - a small underside stencil hit critical mass and fissioned into small pieces so I applied decal preservative on the sheet and let it dry. The underside crosses were tried next and these went on OK, despite a few small tears at the edges. They are also off register a bit.

The fuselage side Balkenkreuz decided to pack it in though, despite the preservative. As I have no extras in this size, I will need to make some masks and paint them. Need to do that for the B and O letters anyway so no biggie.

All the more reason this one won't be done any time soon!

 

[Vic Balshaw]

That Balkenkreuz sure don't look good and I'm not sure if I'd cope with a stencil and spray on.

 

[le_steph40]

 

[Wurger]

Despite of the decal problems ...

 

[fubar57]

Shame about the decals Andy but nothing you can't handle with that cutter. Me....I'd be a pile of goo on the floor

 

[Crimea_River]

Thanks guys. Motivation is low to make the masks but hope my attitude adjusts to tackle them soon.

 

[N4521U]

It'll come good with your skills!!!!!

 

[Gnomey]

Looks good so far Andy!

 

[Wildsau]

That wellenmuster is so thin and tight I wish you luck.

 

[Crimea_River]

That wellenmuster is so thin and tight I wish you luck.

Thanks. I'm going to need it.

So far the only kit decals that have worked were the crosses on the underside shown above so I've given up on those and have started applying spares from other kits. Pics when I have a bunch of those done.

 

[A4K]

What size is that Balkenkreuz Andy, and do you need Hakenkreuze aswell? I've got alot of spares.