Can anyone ID this Weird Bird?

[Capt. Vick]

This is a picture that is hanging in the Cradle of Aviation Museum that shows Roosevelt Field in the early part of last century. Can anyone ID the plane I circled in Red? Very curious looking. Oh, and another odd duck I circled in blue off to the right. Must be one of Mr Burnelli's early "Flying Fuselage" transports. Cool huh?

 

[GregP]

It LOOKS like an early A. V. Roe Vulcan flying wing, but could be anything ...

The other one is so fuzzy it may take forever to identify. When I blow it up, it is all digital jaggies with square corners. It looks for all the world like a Bell YP-59A but is about 30 years, give or take a bit, too soon for that ... it will be fun trying to figure it out.

NONE of them are "easy" due to resolution.

A VERY interesting find!

 

[GregP]

Duplicate post ... for some reason ...

 

[Capt. Vick]

I will have to get a close-up next time.

 

[norab]

maybe a Waterman Aerobile

 

[tyrodtom]

The cars you can see in the picture dates it somewhere in the early to mid 30s, definitely not the 20s.

 

[Greyman]

One of the Westland-Hill Pterodactyl versions?

 

[Greyman]

maybe a Waterman Aerobile

Ah, Waterman Arrowplane might be it:

 

[soulezoo]

Agree with Greyman.

The one in blue is simply too far away.

 

[GrauGeist]

That monoplane in the foreground - left (NC14719) is a Fairchild 24C-8C (1934 vintage) so that gives us a good idea of the age of the photo.

That goofy aircraft is most likely Waterman's W-4 Arrowplane NS13, built in 1936, flown in 1937.

He built several types, but the black "rudders" and shape of the vertical stabilizers on the one pictured identifies with NS13.

 

[Capt. Vick]

Knew I could count on you guys. Thanks.

 

[Capt. Vick]

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This is a picture that is hanging in the Cradle of Aviation Museum that shows Roosevelt Field in the early part of last century. Can anyone ID the plane I circled in Red? Very curious looking. Oh, and another odd duck I circled in blue off to the right. Must be one of Mr Burnelli's early "Flying Fuselage" transports. Cool huh?

Went back and "clicked" this, the odd duck I circled in blue off to the right in my original post. I still content it must be one of Mr Burnelli's early "Flying Fuselage" transports.

 

[fubar57]

Sure looks like it Jim

 

[fubar57]

I didn't know that there was anything left his aircraft but at the New England Air Museum this...

 

[Capt. Vick]

Oh man, do they STILL have it outside? How old is that picture?

 

[rtcapo]

Wading thru old posts. If you haven't seen this yet, NEAM has been working on the CBY-3.
Your mystery bird looks like the Burnelli American UB-1.

 

[GrauGeist]

Wading thru old posts. If you haven't seen this yet, NEAM has been working on the CBY-3.
Your mystery bird looks like the Burnelli American UB-1.

It's a Waterman W-4, NS13

 

[A4K]

Well done guys, and interesting find Jim!

 

[Capt. Vick]

Great!

 

[the1pope]

If the picture of the plane in the foreground is a Waterman Aerobile and it had its maiden flight in 1937 then the Burnelli in the background is the UB-14. It is also the "B" model since the original UB-14 crashed in early '35 from a mechanics mistake which made the ailerons fall off in flight. Awesome catch. This is the first new Burnelli pic I've seen in about 3 years. Been working on upgrades to his designs since 2006. Also, the only surviving Burnelli is in its final phase of restoration at the New England Air Museum. Check out the latest here... New England Air Museum