Young late war LW pilots only heard ignore the fighters. Which most took literally even when fired upon.
Galland Mullers were big advocates of the free hunt during the BoB. They felt babysitting bombers or
Carrying bombs was a waste of what there 109's were capable of. I tend to agree.
Ignore the fighters, go for the bombers. Goring's big blunder in regards to the P-51. Not allowing his pilots the free hunt. Another blunder in regards to the BoB.
Again it wasn't the BF 109's fault. Command decisions hampered the 109 pilots efforts. If decisions were left to the pilots, the RAF would have been decimated.
@ Parsifal,
In regards to you "liking" my comment, understand that I'm a firm believer that Germany could have brought the airwar to a stalemate if different tactics were employed, and certain command decisions countermanded. Even with existing German aircraft.
My apologies, for some reason I cannot post in the 'News' section. Please feel free to move this topic.
"On December 17, 1903, in Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, brothers Wilbur and Orville Wright soared into history as inventors of the first successful airplane, which they called the Flyer...
Challenge accepted. :D
58000 lost to combat? Those were day fighters according to your source? Becouse we're talking about day fighters here!
Day Fighters! ;)
So now we don't believe Russian reports, or German reports. Who should we believe? Americans? British? Aliens? I'll tell you right now, German reports are miles more accurate then anything from Russia. And most of the Luftwaffe claims were confirmed by the VVS documents. Now I'll just sit back...
Why does everybody also use the G-6 as a reference.. plenty of other 109's during 1944. G-14/AS, G-10, K-4.
DB 605 DC/ASC without MW for base-setting 1,98ata and 1,8ata
K-4 = 3400kg (7480lbs)
720km/h (448mph) @ 7200 meters (23,622ft)
590km/h (367mph) @ sea level
640km/h (398mph) @ 12000...
Err yep. You know 'Gemeinschaft der Jagdflieger' is the German Fighter pilots association, right? IE: day fighters. Not talking bombers here.
So my apologies I should have made that clear.
Anyways here are some figures:
1941 VVS loss 5000 / LW loss 600
1942 VVS loss 8000 / LW loss 500...
Total Luftwaffe losses in the east was about 4000 (+/-) aicraft. Source on that is Gemeinschaft der Jagdflieger. According to Russian archives, the combat losses of the VVS between 1941 and 1945 amounted to 46,100 (+/-) a/c. This doesn't even include the VVS losses of the summer of 1941 which...